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Re: [GIVEAWAY/POLL] What is your perception of Libertycoin?
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voisina
on 10/06/2014, 16:30:34 UTC
Libertycoin needs exactly what Liberty itself needs, Belief.
Belief is the base of intrinsic value.
If you think I'm wrong, study what makes money, money.
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Re: [GIVEAWAY/POLL] What is your perception of Libertycoin?
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voisina
on 10/06/2014, 16:27:58 UTC
Here's another:

I think Bitcoin is great accept for two things: its speed, and the infinite hashing power needed. Libertycoin eliminates these problems. Anonymity is great in a society based on solid moral footing. Or is it?  I don't know how solid our morality is these days. I think some serious study is needed to conclude anonymity to be, overall, beneficial or not. The only real way to figure out if it's good is to try it. Whether that will ever happen for money is anyone's guess.
However, remember to think big. To think big means an alternative to fiat currencies. A happy and cohesive society is not full of dark secrets. If the society is based on liberty, good moral ground, and natural law, why do we really need to hide our money movements. The largest benefit I see with anonymous money is to avoid the fraud and money controls set in place by the government. In a lawful society, these controls would not exist. I'm not firm yes or no to anonymity.
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Re: [GIVEAWAY/POLL] What is your perception of Libertycoin?
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voisina
on 10/06/2014, 16:24:19 UTC
This is an old post of mine:

Has anyone ever commented on any of these bitcointalk threads using their real name?
A major ingredient in liberty is trust, no?
After all where is the strength in a "community" who's members don't even know one another?
That is one of my ideas for this coin. Could someone create a platform where libertycoin community members could state who they really are, on record. Real names. Maybe a short bio.
People here say they want this coin to stand out and be different from the rest. A real community will stand out. People could even state how many xlb's they hold. Members could trade services etc.

That is one of my ideas for libertycoin, but I have more crazy ideas.

Could anyone create on online market only for libertycoin, like a craigslist or a Kijiji?

Now this is an out there idea, based on trust.

Imagine a staged buying rally of xlb's. One where members announce there buy orders as they're placed. One where community members anounce how much btc they will be spending. One where members first vote on the desired price level for XLB. With real names used and the ability to trace who dumps if anyone does.

Do you think these things, if accomplished, would make this coin stand out? I do.
Do you think these things are possible, or is there not enough trusting and trustworthy people in the community of libertycoin?
To radical?
To scary?
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Re: [ANN][LIBERTYCOIN][XLB] X11 | 100% POS | No IPO | No Premine | Cryptsy & Mintpal
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voisina
on 03/06/2014, 22:04:48 UTC
I am working on a list of ideas that we can discuss on adding more value to the Libertycoin community. What are more ideas we can come up with to increase value?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WZqqYfmSoOPIDtDy6NGr1CTHJxqXuXwnm3PUPVOWrz0/edit#gid=0

Please comment on what I've just posted. Thanks
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voisina
on 03/06/2014, 22:00:32 UTC
Has anyone ever commented on any of these bitcointalk threads using their real name?
A major ingredient in liberty is trust, no?
After all where is the strength in a "community" who's members don't even know one another?
That is one of my ideas for this coin. Could someone create a platform where libertycoin community members could state who they really are, on record. Real names. Maybe a short bio.
People here say they want this coin to stand out and be different from the rest. A real community will stand out. People could even state how many xlb's they hold. Members could trade services etc.

That is one of my ideas for libertycoin, but I have more crazy ideas.

Could anyone create on online market only for libertycoin, like a craigslist or a Kijiji?

Now this is an out there idea, based on trust.

Imagine a staged buying rally of xlb's. One where members announce there buy orders as they're placed. One where community members anounce how much btc they will be spending. One where members first vote on the desired price level for XLB. With real names used and the ability to trace who dumps if anyone does.

Do you think these things, if accomplished, would make this coin stand out? I do.
Do you think these things are possible, or is there not enough trusting and trustworthy people in the community of libertycoin?
To radical?
To scary?

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Re: [ANN][LIBERTYCOIN][XLB] X11 | 100% POS | No IPO | No Premine | Cryptsy & Mintpal
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voisina
on 03/06/2014, 12:52:00 UTC
To all those who are calling for change:
Libertycoin was doing great until people began to call for change. Bashing the developer and by default expressing that the coin is not good enough. You people are either ill intentioned or complete idiots. You say you want libertycoin to succeed while you kill it. I find it hard to believe you are that stupid, but maybe you are. I'm betting you have ill intentions.
So stop one of two things: acting ridiculously ignorant, or acting with bad intent
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voisina
on 02/06/2014, 23:10:51 UTC
Yes, there is too much greed and selfishness in crypto, every coin seems to just be for the benefit of its creator.
Why are you for Libertycoin if you see it as no different to the others? And I don't believe the devs have an unfair amount of Libertycoins so I don't see this as the main problem with xlb. I do think it's missing an ideology at the moment, and I wish there was more commitment to it as an idea, rather than just a money making coin.emphasis added

Here's some ideology for all of us:

Quote from: Samuel Adams
If you love Wealth better than Liberty, the tranquility of Servitude than the animating contest of Freedom, go home from us in peace.  We ask not your counsel or your arms.  Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you.  May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.

This is the kind of promotion libertycoin needs. This guy mows what he's quoting. If libertycoin is to be "something new" let it serve the true, intended purpose of cryptocurrency. Not another gimmick. Rather REAL MONEY!
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voisina
on 02/06/2014, 22:57:12 UTC
New or old?
Libertycoin makes the old new again. There is no  greater dream for working class people then liberty.

Boomslang you are far too narrow minded. Like I said, we need money. Good money. Not coins that shoot lasers.

No it doesn't - it hides behind the face of Liberty, controlled by a ruling elite.  Just like all the other coins.  Just like the banks.

The very banks we are trying to get away from.  It's bankers dressed up as geography teachers.

It's not new; it's not a new foundation - it is another coat of paint on an old wall.

"Look! it's Shiney, buy me!"

I'm not sure where narrow-minded comes into it in my posts.  I want openness and Liberty.

Some of the responses are, however, very narrow-minded. 

The current market cap of libertycoin is near $335,000. Do you think that's a lot of money? Do you not see that with a market cap like that, the coins can very easily and evenly spread throughout the community. These were mined long enough ago to all be bought and sold many times over.
I don't consider myself a ruling elite and the entire market cap is within my reach.
"Ruling elite" - $335,000. Really?  Ridiculous!!
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Re: [ANN][LIBERTYCOIN][XLB] X11 | 100% POS | No IPO | No Premine | Cryptsy & Mintpal
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voisina
on 02/06/2014, 22:48:49 UTC
People unite naturally with like minds. Like minds are a force to be reckoned with. "Unions" however, are lead by mafias.
I know you think your smart always avoiding what is pointed out when you are accused of being false. False in your motives, false in your statements. Like I said before, your intentions are obvious. I can see right threw your game. You really should check this flaw in your character before carrying on. You can escape what others say but you'll never escape your own thoughts.
I'm discussing things civilly with you. But it's like having tea with the enemy.
I'll give you one thing though, you sure are relentless
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voisina
on 02/06/2014, 22:35:21 UTC
New or old?
Libertycoin makes the old new again. There is no  greater dream for working class people then liberty.

Boomslang you are far too narrow minded. Like I said, we need money. Good money. Not coins that shoot lasers.
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voisina
on 02/06/2014, 22:28:06 UTC

It's not so much the strengths of the devs or the community, but the principles on which they stand and adhere to.

No amount of promotion will help without a solid foundation.  You cannot polish a turd.

I am not a dev. Please explain precisely what makes it a "turd"

All cryptos are copy/paste of previous coins - all are subject to the problems I have highlighted.  All of them are potentially turds.  Just an anology, I'm not saying Libertycoin is specifically a turd amongst good cryptos, that's a misinterpretation.

In order to move forward, a new philosophy needs to be created.  

Reference : Thatcherism, 1980's.

The old order needed to be uprooted, examined and re-assessed.  A new foundation was required for the future.

Does Libertycoin want to follow the old ways or create something new?

Anonimity is not a new way forward, it is merely another coat of paint on the crumbling wall of cryptos.

I think Bitcoin is great accept for two things: its speed, and the infinite hashing power needed. Libertycoin eliminates these problems. Anonymity is great in a society based on solid moral footing. Or is it?  I don't know how solid our morality is these days. I think some serious study is needed to conclude anonymity to be, overall, beneficial or not. The only real way to figure out if it's good is to try it. Whether that will ever happen for money is anyone's guess.
However, remember to think big. To think big means an alternative to fiat currencies. A happy and cohesive society is not full of dark secrets. If the society is based on liberty, good moral ground, and natural law, why do we really need to hide our money movements. The largest benefit I see with anonymous money is to avoid the fraud and money controls set in place by the government. In a lawful society, these controls would not exist.
I'm not firm yes or no to anonymity.

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on 02/06/2014, 21:45:50 UTC

It's not so much the strengths of the devs or the community, but the principles on which they stand and adhere to.

No amount of promotion will help without a solid foundation.  You cannot polish a turd.

I am not a dev. Please explain precisely what makes it a "turd"
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voisina
on 02/06/2014, 21:40:09 UTC
Libertycoin needs exactly what Liberty itself needs, Belief.
Belief is the base of intrinsic value.
If you think I'm wrong, study what makes money, money.

Belief has been used to by scam artists to dupe the uneducated for centuries.

The whales who are pumping and dumping you are manipulating you on your "belief".  Believers arent the ones dumping the coins, the whales are because they can make money on the uneducated.

There's that negative undertone again.
Belief is a very powerful thing. Belief caused great nations to rise. Belief encourages enormous sacrifice for a cause. Belief can overcome anything, and that's been proven countless times in history.
The real "whales" are the fed. The fed dukes believers with fiat. Libertycoin is not fiat.
Belief in libertycoin is a step toward liberty!

We can agree to disagree on belief.  You think it is powerful enough, I think more is needed. good enough.

Do you think a strong developer with vision is needed, or just belief?


I think:
1- it has to function properly
2- it must have a market - you need to be able to purchase things with it
3- it needs to be promoted as the name describes
I think that features are interesting but can also overshadow the true purpose of cryptocurrency. I don't think we need a coin that shoots lasers.
We need real money that can be moved digitally and securely

I don't know of a developers vision that could trump the vision of liberty
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voisina
on 02/06/2014, 21:38:30 UTC
Libertycoin needs exactly what Liberty itself needs, Belief.
Belief is the base of intrinsic value.
If you think I'm wrong, study what makes money, money.

Belief has been used to by scam artists to dupe the uneducated for centuries.

The whales who are pumping and dumping you are manipulating you on your "belief".  Believers arent the ones dumping the coins, the whales are because they can make money on the uneducated.

There's that negative undertone again.
Belief is a very powerful thing. Belief caused great nations to rise. Belief encourages enormous sacrifice for a cause. Belief can overcome anything, and that's been proven countless times in history.
The real "whales" are the fed. The fed dukes believers with fiat. Libertycoin is not fiat.
Belief in libertycoin is a step toward liberty!

We can agree to disagree on belief.  You think it is powerful enough, I think more is needed. good enough.

Do you think a strong developer with vision is needed, or just belief?


I think:
1- it has to function properly
2- it must have a market - you need to be able to purchase things with it
3- it needs to be promoted as the name describes
I think that features are interesting but can also overshadow the true purpose of cryptocurrency. I don't think we need a coin that shoots lasers.
We need real money that can be moved digitally and securely
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voisina
on 02/06/2014, 21:26:09 UTC
Libertycoin needs exactly what Liberty itself needs, Belief.
Belief is the base of intrinsic value.
If you think I'm wrong, study what makes money, money.

Belief isn't the only thing that makes money, money.

Fundamentals also matter.  People don't accept fiat currency simply because they have faith or believe.

People accept fiat because the governments that control the fiat back that fiat with the fundamental worth of their GDP. 

You need to study more. The only thing liberty coin is missing is the intrinsic value caused by belief
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voisina
on 02/06/2014, 21:23:25 UTC
Libertycoin needs exactly what Liberty itself needs, Belief.
Belief is the base of intrinsic value.
If you think I'm wrong, study what makes money, money.

Belief has been used to by scam artists to dupe the uneducated for centuries.

The whales who are pumping and dumping you are manipulating you on your "belief".  Believers arent the ones dumping the coins, the whales are because they can make money on the uneducated.

There's that negative undertone again.
Belief is a very powerful thing. Belief caused great nations to rise. Belief encourages enormous sacrifice for a cause. Belief can overcome anything, and that's been proven countless times in history.
The real "whales" are the fed. The fed dukes believers with fiat. Libertycoin is not fiat.
Belief in libertycoin is a step toward liberty!
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voisina
on 02/06/2014, 20:55:21 UTC
Libertycoin needs exactly what Liberty itself needs, Belief.
Belief is the base of intrinsic value.
If you think I'm wrong, study what makes money, money.
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voisina
on 02/06/2014, 20:34:17 UTC
Hahaha bloody hell now hes throwing slavery into it lol, i gather your running out of straws to clutch  Cheesy

The parallel is deliberate.

People expect to be paid a wage for their efforts.  

This is the original plan and vision of the Satoshi whitepaper.  1 cpu, 1 vote.

That no longer applies due to advancements in technology and, in effect, the large scale hashers have become slave masters and the solo miner slaves to a mechanism that no longer treats them fairly.

90% or more of all miners are at a severe disadvantage - the methodology speaks of fairness and honesty, but this no longer applies.

The large scale miners have become private investors and, in effect, mint their own currency and quite often fob it off onto the weak and unwary in order to dominate the market.  This isn't Capitalism, it is slavery.  Greed, in this case, is NOT good.

If more and more people demanded to be paid with Bitcoin, those coins would need to be purchased with cash and then paid to the workers. How long do you think it would take to spread 21,000,000 coins? There are billions of people. Add in all of the other cryptos if you want. Maybe some want litecoin or libertycoin. Eventually the coins would be mostly off of the exchange and used as currency. At that point the cash used to purchase them would be near worthless. And yes, those minors would make a lot of cash. But like I said the cash would be worthless. So, the people would hold the value.
On another note: liberty coin is not mined, so why are you mentioning large scale hashers here?
It seems you're a slave to your relentless need to insult the intelligence of, and manipulate the people around you.

Incorrect.  Libertycoin WAS mined, it only lasted 3 days instead of the projected 5.  The reasons are obvious.

It is not I that is doing any manipulation.

If someone teaches you how to paddle a canoe correctly so you do not drown, is that manipulation?

Why don't YOU start another thread teaching people the laws of crypto-economics.
I've not seen anyone on here thank you or you're buddy for the education. It's really very obvious no one wants, here, wants your education.
Knowing this, if you continue to "educate" you will be acting in contradiction of the peoples wants.
See, education is great, but your not educating.
You are insulting with your arrogance, and OBVIOUSLY ATTEMPTING TO MANIPULATE.
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on 02/06/2014, 20:14:10 UTC
Hahaha bloody hell now hes throwing slavery into it lol, i gather your running out of straws to clutch  Cheesy

The parallel is deliberate.

People expect to be paid a wage for their efforts.  

This is the original plan and vision of the Satoshi whitepaper.  1 cpu, 1 vote.

That no longer applies due to advancements in technology and, in effect, the large scale hashers have become slave masters and the solo miner slaves to a mechanism that no longer treats them fairly.

90% or more of all miners are at a severe disadvantage - the methodology speaks of fairness and honesty, but this no longer applies.

The large scale miners have become private investors and, in effect, mint their own currency and quite often fob it off onto the weak and unwary in order to dominate the market.  This isn't Capitalism, it is slavery.  Greed, in this case, is NOT good.

If more and more people demanded to be paid with Bitcoin, those coins would need to be purchased with cash and then paid to the workers. How long do you think it would take to spread 21,000,000 coins? There are billions of people. Add in all of the other cryptos if you want. Maybe some want litecoin or libertycoin. Eventually the coins would be mostly off of the exchange and used as currency. At that point the cash used to purchase them would be near worthless. And yes, those minors would make a lot of cash. But like I said the cash would be worthless. So, the people would hold the value.
On another note: liberty coin is not mined, so why are you mentioning large scale hashers here?
It seems you're a slave to your relentless need to insult the intelligence of, and manipulate the people around you.
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Re: [ANN][LIBERTYCOIN][XLB] X11 | 100% POS | No IPO | No Premine | Cryptsy & Mintpal
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voisina
on 02/06/2014, 19:57:50 UTC
U 2  are only hurting the ppl that invested in xlb.
U arent helping...only making others lose...thats all. Noone cares
What your opinion is. So why not volunteer at the red cross or something
Constructive.


Ya! Help poor kids who can't afford cryptocurrencies or the computers used to buy them. As smart as you two are you must have plenty of money to help the needy. When I was a child I was needy, I was poor, I could've used help from smart folks like you. I don't need your help anymore.
So find someone who needs it.