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Blazr2 thank you for all your hard work, energy and time you invest in this project. You're a good guy and one of the best devs - your commitement to the coin will make it a success. The Uno-creation was a masterpiece. This will be a big one in the not so distant future.


FK you're one likeable whale

I am on vacation for a while, guys.

Love this community. Keep going like that. Un for the win.

i am trading Un since the first day it was on exchange and can confirm:
all in all this coin is not heavily manipulated.
We had one upwards anomaly (wolong) and one downwards anomaly (coinex) - other than that this coins' market feels and trades like a free market should. That's why i like it as much as i do. Hope we can get Un to the Top 20 in the coming months because it really belongs there. It's worth it. Un can stay, it passed all tests.

'Store of wealth' confirmed and approved from my perspective.

lol
give it some days. If coinex runs out who is going to sell us cheap coins in the future?

well, we didn't really step on the toe of anybody. The person remains anonymous. It helped us understand uffG was the cryptsy-account of the thief and we were able to understand and proof coins were sent directly from coinex-adress to cryptsy and dumped on that market. We know this now with certainty. I think it was worth the inconveniences.

Those other referred adresses all received Un after the 'hack' occured and actually nobody was able to withdraw as far as i know. Furthermore they received exactly same amounts as another adress.
The 'witch hunt' should come to an end now. All we wanted to know was if there remains stolen Uno to be dumped on the market and how much.
I think we did a good job in uncovering what was to be uncovered.
Let's lay the hammer down on this one, i agree. We know enough now. Sorry for any inconveniences that were possibly caused for investors.

we'll probably get that spread closed in the coming days. So if you want to sell - do it fast before the price goes up
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel

could very well be he is selling his last 537Un on mintpal as we speak. We'll know later. Very possible more than one person was involved in the theft if you look at udNPskm7dR7viHsBE1XTjb6jF26676j8Lz

there is also the remote possibility this wallet could belong to someone who was able to withdraw later. So if this belongs to someone in the community please let me know so we can set the record straight.

edit: but i don't think that is the case since it was withdrawn in amounts of 49 (same as the transactions before that to the other wallet)

my v0.9.5.0 didn't sync yesterday but does today. Try to restart maybe?

What i found from looking at uLpiP:

This adress was getting 2200 Un in 25th of december and 2000 in 27th of January from uLpiP:
uerJLjGmPoZDGSUqqEfkQtNbGQz7FA5CLF

liquidating between 31st Jan and 5th of april
possible private wallet - not sure

time: well before the 'hack' - i thought i mention it because the amount was pretty significant.

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15th of march uLpiP contains around 8500 Un (before that i found a lot of transactions out which could well be private wallets of people withdrawing - but we don't know who or if they already took Un out for themselves before the "hack")

all transactions on 17th of march go to uffG (cryptsy-account) and nowhere else as far as i can see.

uLpiP nearly empty 17th of march.

People continue to mine with them (thank you for that - not) 380 Un till 30th of march

on 30th of march this transaction for 6 Un occurs:

http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/1a3fbcc7915e6fafe22dd9a8c2c0bb0fdad2fdc7d02c91db39cfe203cad18f77

two transactions for 49Un each to adress uLqvAbZkqXsfSDYx6HAFJcjGjS7ZDXuzv2:
http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/d3c8908dc01920bdc66e30e0745c00b4b76fc70f0f2aa8098d63a0aefe6ffaf0
http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/ec1e6d59c9ce5d596538604ca63db2a2602997695b2203c9ce9dcfcb47bc3dfe#o0


the rest of those 380 coins mined after 17th of march go to http://cryptexplorer.com/address/udNPskm7dR7viHsBE1XTjb6jF26676j8Lz   (537 Un remain in there)



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People continue to mine small amounts. 2.5 Un go to
http://cryptexplorer.com/address/uVq9bKvbYjsD1jDqJ1PGYGR7hXdutHjoFu

later another smaller transaction for less than 6 Un goes to another wallet which only received that and is empty now.

uLpiP has less than 10 Un in it now. Please stop mining to that wallet!

 

Summary: less than 25 Un remain in all wallets i could find one step from uLpiP after the 17th of march with the exception of udNPskm7dR7viHsBE1XTjb6jF26676j8Lz which still holds 537 Un today

- this is if nothing escaped my attention. Feel free to look over the data which made jyap available for us yourself a second time if you can find more interesting things in there (https://www.dropbox.com/s/xmdnfhrdp4jl3pn/uLpiP5hE8fPF4iEvhix4HCKTTWfWADZTb5_tx.txt.zip)

jyap, i'll send you 5 Un as soon cryptsy lets me. Thank you for providing that.

so i think it is pretty safe to assume coinex liquidated most of what they had but at least 537 Un is probably still with them. But not in an account that was dumping. The wallet received coins also before the "hack". You can check it yourself:
http://cryptexplorer.com/address/udNPskm7dR7viHsBE1XTjb6jF26676j8Lz


We now know much better what was going on and what the situation currently is for Un. I think it is kind of a relief for the community to know coinex is probably not left with many more thousand Un to dump - 537Un - we can handle that.

yeah, cryptsy leaves the coins you send them in the adress you sent to until someone else bought them and withdraws directly from there. We found that out the last days. So you don't find one large cryptsy-wallet in the blockchain.

So there could be two pretty large accounts at cryptsy with 10k and 8900 Un
Some whales who bought over the last few months probably. But can't be sure. It was just a 'glitch'

hahaha

Un is right now probably the most transparent coin out there.

I see brilliant arbitrage coming soon
Let's play poker with open hands, shall we?  

Pump it up wolong, already! Coinex is out. We don't sell to you at these prices!

To the mUn!

...cryptsy what a bunch of amateurs ... autoselling all their Un and points ... lol ... unbelievable! ... haha - you better shut down those withdrawals fast. haha. That could have gone really wrong man
Next time check twice before implementing shit and executing orders, Vern! Really.

if that is true and cryptsy has in fact 40k in their exchange. TAKE THEM OUT YOU MORONS!!!

40.000 Uno is way to much to have in one exchange!
Move them out! Seriously, people.
A deposit from your desktop-wallet to an exchange takes less than 20minutes. The market does not move that fast that you need to store 40k coins at cryptsy.

Sorry for being loud but we have been dumped on much less than that over the past months. If cryptsy gets 'hacked' today we can seriously abandon altcoins in general. 20% to 25% total supply in one place is nothing we want or a risk we can afford to take. When will you people learn? When?!

edit: or is it wolong hoarding at cryptsy? I mean: 10k in one order? From what is that data constructed? Who has 8k and 10k in their cryptsy-accounts? I mean Wtf?

We get a lot of sunshine on Uno lately ... lol
Checking uLpiP right now. Will need some time. I'll report back with findings.

didn't happen 

this is so gox-style

btc for 100$ anyone?

let's get ccex and bittrex going. Move most trades to mintpal please. I am done with cryptsy. Now for real. I am out of there. Period!

did you guys who had those low buyorders up actually get uno for it?

new wallet syncing again.

WTF? Totally glitch in the matrix.

Can we have some answers from cryptsy please?!

great! thank you. Will tip you later.

That's a hell lot of data.

a) not in history
b) who should dump 40k at once? It's not even possible!
c) buysupport is gone though

something strange here.

edit:
cryptsy also had an "error" in their cryptsypoints-market

i have also problems with syncing the new windows-wallet. The old version is working fine though.

Sick of whales and multipools dumping on you?
Sick of hidden coins in the code, hidden premine, flashmine, instamine, fud?
Sick of holding a coin with no hashrate that is being delisted from exchanges?
Sick of bugs in the code?
Sick of the fast changes of fads?
Sick of chasing fads from countrycoins to pos-coins to anon-coins to the next shortlived thing?
Sick of devs running away?

Unobtanium is different.
Unobtanium is a solid coin for the longterm-thinker. It will be there for a long time. It has a layout for hundreds of years and it is less experimental than most other stuff.

The supply is capped to 250k but we won't see that number in our lifetimes. Right now 188k exist with 1k being added per month for the next 2 months. After that it will be 450 new coins a month (only 15 new coins per day). So that inflation is really low making holding this coin for the longterm a pleasure. Sellpressure from miners is going to be minimal in the future. And this is pure pow - high hashrate, low inflation. No coin-dilution of 1% to 100% additional per year through pos-interest.
Unobtanium is as scarce as possible in any way (low number of coins with lowest possible inflation while striking a very healthy balance between interest of miners and interest of investors). In 1 or 2 years from now Un will be very close to zero inflation.

We have seen some coins halving reward too fast, they died because people stoped mining it and distribution was also not fair. Other coins have been halving too late or not halving at all. Their network is still going but people don't want to invest into an inflationary coin. So in Unobtanium you'll find a very good balance and the nature of the coin attracts investors aswell as miners. This fact makes it a healthy coin.
Unobtanium was layed out from the start to be a long term plan. No bite and switch, no sad bagholders.

The community is also pretty nice i think - you'll have to check it out for yourself. I found the general mood in the thread to be constructive. I think that's a good sign. There is no need to make any pressure. Things develop at their own pace. There is always some progess. All is done in a voluntary fashion. We do things because we know they make sense and we have fun doing them. We like building it.
Uno is here to stay and you can always go there if you are sick of all the scams. It is a real store of wealth. No tricks and bad surprises. Extremely fair coin if you read up on the history. You'll find one thread in the ann-section and one thread in this section if you want to read up on it.

Take a look at the distribution compared to some random other coins (blue: Top 10 / Red: Top 100 / yellow: top 1000 / green: others):


how did Un achieve such a relatively good distribution?
Well, look at the curve for coincreation:


this curve was constructed by the dev to have the best possible outcome for the coin and NOT with personal quick gain in mind. There was no premine and no flashmine. It is an altruistic, intelligent and rooted coin and that is why you will come to love it. All the important points are there.

Halving of reward happens approx every 200 days which is not too long and not too quick.
This curve stands every criticism and i won't compare it to other coins here for obvious reasons. Do your own research on that topic. You'll very likely come to the same conclusion: Uno has one of the fairest distributions possible.

As a result the community is very healthy and aware of the fact that it is up to them to promote the coin and look for developing services and so on.
The community is active and taking care of adding services and new exchanges aswell as promoting it. It is no vapourware. There are lots of longterm-holders who intend to give this coin more and more value over time through building said services and reputation.
Currently we are looking to be added to bittrex. The Unobtanium cryptographic dreammaterial is already being traded at cryptsy and mintpal aswell as a number of smaller exchanges. The community aims for Unobtanium being available on all important exchanges and generally at as many exchanges as possible. That will not change. A new altcoin-exchange comes along that can develop some traction? Uno will very likely be traded there sooner or later.

Unobtanium will have its 1-year-anniversary soon. And i am pretty sure we will be celebrating the 2nd and 3rd year and many more years after that aswell. So, yes you can turn off your computer for 2 weeks and when you turn it on again Uno is still there, no worries.

And as a little bonus-information for people reading this all the way through and looking to get involved first time: a lot of stolen coins from coinex have been dumped on the uno-market over the past 3 to 4 months which also explains why it didn't rise a lot. So these coins are pretty cheap right now (details in the thread).
You'll find in the community many hardcore 'hodlers' like myself and others which also explains why the coin wasn't dumped to the abyss during the last months with up to 10% of supply or even more dumped on us from a thief over last few months. He should mostly be out now. Put it short: the price of that coin was artifically kept low over last few months by selling of incredible amounts of stolen coins from coinex. That is the past now. Sellingpressure on Un will decline drastically over next few weeks and months.

This thread is also an anomaly because it appears when price is low and you can board the train on ground-level - i didn't make this thread when price is high. Think about that.
 
Having a community of strong hands is something you want. You have that with Uno. You don't need to trade it like a hot potato like it is with many other coins. You can forget about your Unobtanium on an old harddrive and find it years later and you'll be very likely a happy man (or woman)

Check out Unobtanium if you haven't already. I bet it is still under the radar of many of you. Buy it when it is cheap - avoid buying on the top
Why not buy something worthwhile for a little change?

Unobtanium was intended as a real store of wealth as its primary function. That's why it can focus on security and does not need to compete so hard with all the currencies since it is a true commodity (measured in kg not coins). New features are nice, but security is more important. Unobtanium is aware of that. No halve baked experiments with our money. The main focus of Un is on being a reliable store for your wealth. I think it can hold that promise.

Promovideo:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=409247319213730&set=vb.402101039928358&type=2&theater

there would be a lot more positive things to say about Unobtanium. Go discover it for yourself. Currently active thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=527500.0

(sorry for grammar and other errors)

buy some unobtanium. It is very oversold right now after a lot of stolen coins have been dumped for months.
Community is good, network is good, coin is good and rare. Huge potential. Just sayin'. Check the thread.

It is also one of the very few altcoins that is not instamined, flashmined or premined. Pretty good to invest in and now big upside-potential since the dumps of stolen coins should be over now.
It won't go away anytime soon. Good for longterm investing also.