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WHY CRYPTICS IS SCAM
1) English on your website is bad enough for professional project (I spent 10-15 minutes reading FAQ and found several mistakes)
2) Your MVP is just these pictures, if I want to purchase a membership, I can only purchase your shit tokens. It would be fantastic to try your MVP (sure if it has ever existed) in a convenient way before investing in your tokens and development of your product.
3) Your team is 100% scam styled. The first person is generous man from Germany, than a dozen of jews with russian and unkrainian surnames, then some mix of bla bla experts and advisors.
1) English on your website is bad enough for professional project (I spent 10-15 minutes reading FAQ and found several mistakes)
2) Your MVP is just these pictures, if I want to purchase a membership, I can only purchase your shit tokens. It would be fantastic to try your MVP (sure if it has ever existed) in a convenient way before investing in your tokens and development of your product.
3) Your team is 100% scam styled. The first person is generous man from Germany, than a dozen of jews with russian and unkrainian surnames, then some mix of bla bla experts and advisors.
Anyway, is there a known procedure to register ETH wallet address keeping EOS tokens now in EOS.IO like it is advised on many resources? I haven't found any link or instruction on EOS.IO on how to register the address in order the tokens could be swaped to the main EOS network after June 1st.
It's a goodnews it is good entry to buy ethereum and hodl it .
I think you'd rather wait until it drops to $200, because it will drop to $200 for sure !!
Fully agree and waiting to buy it for $180-$200 per 1 ETH.
I think that envion will not be scam but more like they are going to screw investors by possibly giving less tokens. I don't know but this is just assumption as I observed investors waited so much.
I think they will give all purchased tokens to investors, but their tokens have already lost much value as of now. When crypto market becomes bullish again, there will already be issued new ASIC chips, while envion containers will contain old chiped miners, which would be rather less effective. So profits and dividends will be miserable, if it covers the initial investment amounts (1 token = $1) it will be a wonder.
Envion may or may not be a scam, but it is definitely a very ambitious project that resembles something like science fiction rather than a honest business proposition. Let´s hope for the best.
Let's not just hope for the best, let's kick them here and there, let us CRY about the unprofessional and potential scam behavior of their team!
There is no news.
They issue lots of videos (couple of empty containers are being produced and workers are smiling) and announcements about tokens traded on several shit exchanges, they also like to stress attention that dividends payouts will happen some day
We collected 2 containers in 2 months, and we need to collect about 400, they will collect them forever, if they will of course. Many times I regretted that I invested in them!
You forgot to mention if we see the bearish market for 1-2 years more like it was starting from the end of 2013, than envion will just cover the salaries of its unporfessional team members and will have no funds for collecting new containers
If you really follow envion then you should know how hardworking the team behind is! But it is still suspicious that they are in it for the dividends, with the bounties and some investors' tokens are still rendered useless, it may be a way to teach us how to be patient and hodl you know
The only thing it teches us is that scammers can originate from Germany and Switzerland too (not just from Russia, Israel or Bangladesh) and the whole business idea of envion is a piece of shit if you have some brains and can do math. I am sure we will see the dividends update in summer, but it will be so tiny (as the market is so down) that envion tokens will fall down to $0.1-$0.05.
Tokens of some participants are blocked because they are bought on Fiat through a bank card or because they have not yet passed KYC (for the same reason they do not pay bounty, since it is not known the exact number of tokens)
Read the thread and think before you write. We do not discuss the problem of frozen tokens bought with credit cards, envion warned about this 6 months hold during ICO and it is normal, but we are talking about frozen tokens bought for btc and eth and KYC sucessfully passed! And many other negative details concerning envion's unprofessional team and scamlike manner of doing business after ico.
Surely this is not a fair behavior, making unequal treatment between investors.
There are a lot of junk messages or tricky tricks among investors but, the primary purpose is to take the money illegal profits between investors, in my country no matter, In any case, it is supposed to be a scam of corruption. Some projects are supposed to be scams, but there are many people still involved because they do not know.As I wrote it is a polite and intelligent scam, which proves that even such trustworthy ICO like Envion's from such reputable countries like Germany and Switzerland are powerful in manipulating their token market and getiing out tens of millions $ to spend either way they like (I am sure certain amounts are already in offshore accounts of the project owners) and stay unpunished. All these ICO ratings are useless as they are reflecting the marketing part of any ICO project only, bad things happen after ICO is finished.
Such examples make me think that SEC (as one of...) controlled crowd funding is much better than decentralized...
this is very bad news, i'm one of bounty participant, to be honest i'm disapointed to their team. because in the beginning i'm very sure this is a very great projet in the future.
That's the difference - in the beginning it was MARKETING, while now it is actual business process..
I just read this from you. so far envion is a very big ico. even I saw participants of the campaign reach 1000 signatures. this is a record breaker in a campaign that I know.
We are talking about different things. Nobody argues that their ico was impressive but we hope their realization of the project will be as good as predicted, while many details now show their team is not professional and our expectations are in danger.
The problem is that IF it is a scam, then it is an intelligent and polite kind of scam which is closer to determination of low quality and zero potential business project rather than scam. They did KYC and did not allow the US unprofessional investors to participate so SEC has nothing to do with them right now...
Where can I buy some coins with the cheapest price? Too many exchanger & trading sites out there, you don't know which is the best one.
The best way is to go to some meet ups with your friend or a trusted stranger and then buy it , buy it at the lowest value. That is called the p2p or the person to person trading , my friend do this and it help him and now he's sharing it to me.
Beware of dealing p2p trades in certain countries. In the US, for example, there are regualar cases when authorities were involved in such trades and ceased sellers claiming several violations of laws.
The whole situation with Envion investment is very poor. The tokens are traded at half price comparing to ICO (while the project is considered to be real and paying dividends, so the token price must not be as weak as shitcoins dramatically falling now), tokens are traded on shit exchanges only, with ICO final amount over $100M they could enter at least 1 reputable exchange, but they have chosen trash exchanges and possibly are NOT accepted by giant major exchanges... Very sad.