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Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
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wilspen
on 02/08/2024, 01:59:48 UTC
Thoughts, comments, questions?

What if... someone inside Mara is aware of this challenge/addresses with weak privatekeys and had access to that private mempool?

Is hard to trust in this services.

So for all those users who said they've found the key this is the fire test to prove it.




I don't see many options for someone to try to intercept a transaction even if it is with a weak private key, in any case, the biased employee would have to make the transfer in the same way, using the MARA pool, as there would be no time for him to look for another pool, because if he does it openly he will lose the BTCs, that is, the employee only has to lose, whatever he does, it will be discovered, because from the moment you send a transaction it would be exclusively their responsibility to keep your data safe.

When youtube starts monetizing me again, I will make another challenge trying this method, let's see what happens

Perfect, we are looking forward to another live test, remembering that if the transaction of puzzle 66 goes well and the winner comes here to the forum to inform us, it would be a mega positive marketing for MARAPOOL, the company that saved the puzzle from the BOTs.  Grin Grin
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Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
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wilspen
on 01/08/2024, 20:43:44 UTC
Thoughts, comments, questions?

What if... someone inside Mara is aware of this challenge/addresses with weak privatekeys and had access to that private mempool?

Is hard to trust in this services.

So for all those users who said they've found the key this is the fire test to prove it.




I don't see many options for someone to try to intercept a transaction even if it is with a weak private key, in any case, the biased employee would have to make the transfer in the same way, using the MARA pool, as there would be no time for him to look for another pool, because if he does it openly he will lose the BTCs, that is, the employee only has to lose, whatever he does, it will be discovered, because from the moment you send a transaction it would be exclusively their responsibility to keep your data safe.
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Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
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wilspen
on 21/07/2024, 19:58:10 UTC
There is one more test that we can do to collect more information, the test at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjxjkDEE43s&t=723s was done using the lowest possible rate as you can see in the video, this took a lot of time , almost 6 minutes for the first replace to appear, perhaps by placing the highest available rate we can have a confirmation in the first 1 minutes, of course you cannot compare 0.004BTC with 6.6BTC, however we can have another result, so we would have to monitor exchange transactions 6.6BTC and see the average confirmation time and fees added to get a better idea of ​​what we can expect.
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Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
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wilspen
on 21/07/2024, 17:45:43 UTC

They've made opt-in Replace-By-Fee (RBF) the default in Electrum version 4.4.0. If you want to use the old version without this feature by default, you can install version 4.3.0 using the following steps:


git clone https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum.git
cd electrum/
git checkout 4.3.0
pip3 install -r contrib/deterministic-build/requirements.txt
pip3 install .

You can use old version of Electrum but every transaction will automatically have RBF enabled on the node.
Only option is to change node in Electrum to your own full-RBF-disabled node.
And mine in secret this transaction.

However, once the transaction is broadcasted using any (API) method, it is at risk of being replaced.

Even if you share it privately with a third-party miner, that miner could still replace it..

So friend, the entire test was done with an old version of electrum, where it was possible to deactivate the RBF option, as you can confirm in the transaction itself that it was deactivated, perhaps electrum removed this option from the wallet in the most recent updates because miners did not they were respecting it, in other words, it doesn't make sense to have the tool and it not work as it should.
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Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
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wilspen
on 21/07/2024, 03:33:42 UTC
Alberto, you did not broadcast the transaction in Mempool. Can you explain to us what you did? Although your transaction was sent later on the main network (not through Mempool), it was confirmed.

What are you talking about? All TX pass thought mempool (Unless you mine the block)

What I did

1.- retrieve the public key from the mempool transaction (https://mempool.space/docs/api/rest#get-address-transactions-mempool)
2.- get the privatekey with keyhunt (bsgsd daemon https://github.com/albertobsd/keyhunt/blob/main/BSGSD.md )
3.- create a new TX with the UTXO (https://bitcoinlib.readthedocs.io/en/latest/  https://github.com/1200wd/bitcoinlib/blob/master/examples/transactions.py )
4.- broadcast the TX withthe mempool.space API  ( https://mempool.space/docs/api/rest#post-transaction )

All previous point were full automated with python

Some considerations:
2.- I scan from 0x1 to 0x3ffffffffffffffff to avoid previous mistakes of private keys in lower ranges, so It took me twice the amount of time needed to crack the privatekey (It was less than a minute)

4.- I should add some other API provider to broadcast transactions just to add redundancy

The code for broadcast in python using requests

Code:
#Current function
def broadcast_transaction(raw_tx):
    try:
        url = ""
        if networkname=="bitcoin":
            url = "https://mempool.space/api/tx"
        elif networkname=="testnet":
            url = "https://mempool.space/testnet/api/tx"
        else:
            print("Unknow network")
            exit()
        response = requests.post(url, data=raw_tx)
        return response.text
    except requests.exceptions.RequestException as e:
        print(f"error {str(e)}")
        return ""

#Next is just an example, not the actual code.

networkname= 'bitcoin'
RAWTX = "010000000120e57c9717271536b9623703c14ed29b40c98c3c28f2667935f3d63897fae33e000000006a473044022068357d38b55b987e139ce069de456cb399b04f37861879bb7e425ef84b11816a0220425c3fb1c6fa90ca1d7ab6971375a94d62e36a49041d7cfda338d51f4169a08e0121029fd3d2479a37f40d03975cb51ce0fa18cbb709cc46b47caeaa1722cfd3683583ffffffff011821070000000000160014c0f3278346024832e71d25a24d5ae4b73885f85d00000000"
value = broadcast_transaction(RAWTX)
#Need to evaluate value to check if the TX was successful or not







Alberto, there is a tool on the Binance website that allows you to pay a higher fee and have the transaction mined quickly, doing this transaction through Binance runs the risk of losing the BTC too, or it's the same, regardless of the place, it would only be safe directly with a miner?
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Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
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wilspen
on 20/07/2024, 19:21:05 UTC
Can anyone give a rundown on what happened?

Like the original broadcasted transaction, the competing transactions, and which one won?

Take a look at the previous posts and you will understand the context.
Yeah, Bud, I know the concept of this whole test. I wanted to know if anyone took snapshots or notes, of how many different people / competing transactions were happening, before whichever one, finally got through. The play by play, wilspen.

Take a look at the live stream, there you can see the addresses that did RBF and were then overlapped, it happened about 3-4 times.

Maybe your address was there, just look at the time when the mempool website was open and the addresses changed
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Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
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wilspen
on 20/07/2024, 19:11:41 UTC
Can anyone give a rundown on what happened?

Like the original broadcasted transaction, the competing transactions, and which one won?

Take a look at the previous posts and you will understand the context.
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Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
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wilspen
on 20/07/2024, 19:05:36 UTC
fucking hell, i couldn't replace the transaction by any higher fee i got the error saying insufficient fees. wtf
Weird. All I got was "Error: txn-mempool-conflict" when trying to push the new TX (key was cracked in seconds).

So I guess it depends on how to push a raw TX bypassing this error. I'm sure a P2P node can bypass this problem. So not sure what exactly was proven here, except some mempool rules depending on who you broadcast the TX to.



Is it not clear what was proven? hears at least 4 RBF in the transaction, and the transaction was sent with the RBF deactivated, finally, to the guy who said he found wallet 66 and is scared, it's proven that he will lose the BTCs if he tries to transfer, and to the rest of the people who are looking for it, it is worth reflecting on whether it is worth wasting energy looking for a key when they could lose the funds, perhaps the only way to make the transfer securely is through a miner, but even then it would be risky, you have to trust too much in the miner, hahaha
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Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
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wilspen
on 20/07/2024, 18:58:18 UTC
fucking hell, i couldn't replace the transaction by any higher fee i got the error saying insufficient fees. wtf


In this case they did not use a wallet, a direct process was carried out in the transaction, AlbertoBSD won the battle, and could give us more details of what was done.     Grin
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Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
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wilspen
on 20/07/2024, 18:49:33 UTC
Let's hope that n00b bots won't increase the fee when they detect their own tx in the mempool during the battle.


fierce battle in the mempool in the wallet    
197kFKvMHoRJPXktc8xJwMjeTuE9xijBQ with RBF disabled

It was already supposed to be 66, it's been proven that even with RBF deactivated and it's possible to change, there were more than 4 RBF from what I saw
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Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
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wilspen
on 20/07/2024, 01:43:44 UTC

Yes, I agree with this. I've observed some unusual occurrences because not all miners adhere to the same rules. There have been instances where transactions with lower fees were mined instead of those with higher fees, such as 20 satoshis per virtual byte (sat/vB) being chosen over 200 sat/vB. This happens because not all miners promptly update their block templates when a transaction's fee is increased by a bot. Therefore, even if you offer the highest fee, there's no guarantee you'll win the mining competition.


How can I have this bot of yours, will it be available on github?
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Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
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wilspen
on 19/07/2024, 20:56:47 UTC
Yes, as I said, it's just theory, I believe that ...
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faith belongs in the church. Even if you don't like to hear it, it doesn't matter what you or I think, feel, hope or believe. What counts are the facts, and these are implemented in the Bitcoin protocol, can be read and reproduced. It's a program, it has a way of working and it will stick to it Wink

This topic has already been dealt with many times on previous pages, including links to the technical explanations. It is completely irrelevant which software you use, whether you activate RBF or not. I would highly recommend that you read and study the technical documentation on this topic.

perfect, since you are the guy, tomorrow at 15:30 (UTC -3. Brasilia Time), the creator will do the transaction and expose the public key, put your knowledge into practice and prove what you are saying, otherwise , and if it is not hacked, it can be said that we still have hope.
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Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
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wilspen
on 19/07/2024, 18:41:37 UTC
Wait a moment. Why are you giving us a specific time? There is no fixed time for the transaction of puzzle 66. Just complete this task at any time tomorrow and let all the bots do their work.


his audience is on YouTube, a channel for Brazilians who speak Portuguese, I brought it here to show you since we are testing technology, the more people the better, that's why he has an appointment with his audience in Brazil, which is the time he can do the live.
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Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
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wilspen
on 19/07/2024, 17:08:45 UTC
I have a theory, when making a transfer using the electrum wallet and sending the total, the value in the wallet is reset to zero, how would your program do to cancel the transaction if there are no more funds? and to do the RBF you would need funds to increase rates, and without funds it would only be possible to make the first transaction. Do you have any theories if it would still be possible?

Your theory is wrong. It doesn't matter what amount you will transfer or how high the fee is or the software you will use.

The transaction can be replaced at any time by anyone from any location. Only a higher fee is required to make this fully effective.


Yes, as I said, it's just theory, I believe that if only one transaction is made with the full value and RBF deactivated, there is no way to modify this transaction, and in my opinion there is no way to make a new one, since from the moment Since the value comes out of the electrum, it doesn't allow you to do it again, anyway, tomorrow whoever wants to test theories, Imajowka (capujowka) posted the details for this experiment there.
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Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
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wilspen
on 19/07/2024, 17:02:02 UTC

That man is clown...Another address that is not in the range of 66...


This is not the case, we are testing whether it would be possible to make a new transaction from the moment the creator (lmajowka) of the puzzle sends the funds to another wallet, to simulate a possible withdrawal of funds from the 66-bit puzzle wallet.

I want to find out with this test if from the moment he sent the funds, if it would be possible to do the RBF or make a new transaction, using Electrum when sending the entire amount the balance remains with 0 BTC, this way there is no way to increase fee to do the RBF, or override the transaction in the meempool since there is no balance.

Stop complaining and be grateful that someone is spending money to know if it is safe or not to look for wallets below 100 bits.

One thing I noticed yesterday in the test was that I was wrong, the guy placed 7 late blocks at the lowest possible rate and still had the first confirmation in less than 1 minute, this is interesting information for those who think the transaction will be stopped for 10 minutes.
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Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
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wilspen
on 19/07/2024, 16:48:41 UTC
I want see if someone would be able to create a transaction before my transaction is confirmed and get the BTC. This can potentially happen to the winner of 66, but we want to see it happening in the real world. Like when they start to prove Enstein's stuff after they can't progress with the theory anymore

I have a script program almost complete to do that, it actually check the mempool if there is a TX it extract the public key, send it to my keyhunt server retrieve the private key and the last part is  still  not complete, just need to make the TX i already have some script for that I just need to put all together, if you wait me i can finish it tomorrow and test it with a smaller TX. Send me a email or telegram i can show you that tomorrow.


I have a theory, when making a transfer using the electrum wallet and sending the total, the value in the wallet is reset to zero, how would your program do to cancel the transaction if there are no more funds? and to do the RBF you would need funds to increase rates, and without funds it would only be possible to make the first transaction. Do you have any theories if it would still be possible?
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Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
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wilspen
on 19/07/2024, 02:27:39 UTC
the creator doesn’t involve any pattern for create the address puzzle, he's just make it randomly, but per bit of range has "sequence" IMO ("Nowadays people say in range of bit), since the bit is larger the 10% is like 1000000% for that bit.

he just make us curious, with his formula to make the puzzle.
don't delete this, i dont mean to make spam on thread, it's just clarifying THERE'S NO PATTERN.

Are you looking for eggs, the creator himself here in this thread said that there is no logical pattern, that they are random, you will be theorizing aimlessly, wasting time.
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Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
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wilspen
on 18/07/2024, 19:39:59 UTC

Pub:  0x02DC28EF701BB67EB35C759CCA511CD522A598EDAC322FD073A2C0A0BD4CC8C910
Priv:  0x3CB359F64B27EF00

But why you are giving wrong range its not 66 bit its 62 bit.. lets try another Cheesy


Orig TX     https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/transactions/btc/2ee4f5155390a888a22b1417d35bd9023a1005b171b97615f4532d207e581c24
New TX     https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/transactions/btc/098fec25954faad5571bb81234658228c888cd428a2531538ed1d40e278af9e3


Orig Fee  : 0.00001786 BTC
New Fee  : 0.00003764 BTC

ADDRESS:      1DWQHdi1mh27vcUyrN5NYB1kWrs3BBKUXA

No one seems to have taken his BTC



IDK! but its not me..


I understand what happened friend, the creator of this challenge identified the error of having put the wrong range, and sent the value to the wallet 1DWQHdi1mh27vcUyrN5NYB1kWrs3BBKUXA which is in the right range, I apologize for what happened, I'm not the creator, I'm just trying to bring the real-time information for you, since the language of the challenge creator would be aimed at the Portuguese-speaking public, you can activate the BOT again with this new address that it has now ensured is in the right range.

Address: 1DWQHdi1mh27vcUyrN5NYB1kWrs3BBKUXA
Range: 20000000000000000:3ffffffffffffffff

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Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
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wilspen
on 18/07/2024, 19:27:54 UTC

Quote

Here is the key

Pub:  0x02DC28EF701BB67EB35C759CCA511CD522A598EDAC322FD073A2C0A0BD4CC8C910
Priv:  0x3CB359F64B27EF00


But why you are giving wrong range its not 66 bit its 62 bit.. lets try another Cheesy


Now I'm curious to know how you did this so well in the 62-bit range, did you put it to scan from the beginning?
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Re: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it
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wilspen
on 18/07/2024, 19:14:04 UTC
UPDATE


Guys, here's a new puzzle challenge from the channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkejrZuQadg, this challenge consists of locating the private key of the address 19L9vivFCPJnAVDsjZ76mF2ZiTLKFUXEpV which is in the same range as puzzle 66, but with a dot , according to the creator, next Friday, he will request a transfer, the objective would be to export the public key on the blockchain and test whether it would be possible for someone to intercept the transfer before it is completed through the RBF, thus removing doubts whether The same thing could happen with puzzle 66, so whoever has the BOTs being heated could do this test with this key. hahahaha.

Anyway, you already know the day, you just need to be more agile than the process on the blockchain, according to the creator, he will place the transaction at the lowest possible rate, precisely to understand if it would be possible for someone to intercept this transaction and withdraw before him, good luck.

Creator:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkejrZuQadg

Address: 19L9vivFCPJnAVDsjZ76mF2ZiTLKFUXEpV
Range: 20000000000000000:3ffffffffffffffff



complement of the challenge, According to the creator in his new video, the transaction will take place between 1-2am, Brasilia time (UTC-03:00), he said he will try to delay some blocks, to give people time to try to make the transfers using RBF according to the last video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1w-AfL6qQ

Here is the key

Pub:  0x02DC28EF701BB67EB35C759CCA511CD522A598EDAC322FD073A2C0A0BD4CC8C910
Priv:  0x3CB359F64B27EF00


But why you are giving wrong range its not 66 bit its 62 bit.. lets try another Cheesy


Congratulations, you were lucky, about the range I don't know what happened, it was probably a mistake on the part of the creator, I'm not the creator, I just reposted it here for people to try, if you watch the video it says it's in the same range as the wallet 66bit, sorry about that.