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Don't agree and also you've missed the subject which is the thief.
If I let my guard open, keep my coin in a hot wallet or in an exchange where I do not own the key, then in my opinion I am not a true crypto user. You meant to have your own key, you meant to secure your wallet to avoid getting hacked and your funds to be stolen.Have a hardware wallet or air gapped wallet. Secure the seed or private key in none digital format. Take care of it like you take care of a piece of a diamond or a gold bar. Your crypto will be safe. Don't blame others while you do not learn the basic of crypto.
Ok, here we go again.
Self-protection and criminal activity are two different things.
And thier solution to effectively fight cyber crimes is a partnership of public and private such as government and private blockchain teams to formulate a plan. This is a lot more of a threat than a solution for anyone in the blockchain space.
While we can not blame victims for not being very aware of keys and exposure to potential crimes, there really is the need for adoption for old folks to learn. Or they could just trust the 3rd parties who offer convenience which is also risky. Either is risky.
How it could be solved in the future is one of the reasons I've been asking a question here. It's on us to find solutions within cyberspace and to protect each other.
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Don't agree and also you've missed the subject which is the thief.
If I let my guard open, keep my coin in a hot wallet or in an exchange where I do not own the key, then in my opinion I am not a true crypto user. You meant to have your own key, you meant to secure your wallet to avoid getting hacked and your funds to be stolen.Have a hardware wallet or air gapped wallet. Secure the seed or private key in none digital format. Take care of it like you take care of a piece of a diamond or a gold bar. Your crypto will be safe. Don't blame others while you do not learn the basic of crypto.
You've missed the point again. Sorry.
No doubt that our freedom is under attack, but our security as well.
So, everywhere across cyberspace, I've been asking the same question:
"Who is responsible for the thief who stole someone's digital goods and freely continue to another victim?"
Human beings are weak creatures. We all make mistakes and we all pay the price for it in one way or another, but this still doesn't mean that somebody who took profit from our mistakes through criminal activity has the right to avoid punishment so he/she/they can continue freely to the next victim. It will never be accepted and tolerated by the human community.
Freedom with responsibility strongly implies ethics of justice. So, when criminal activity is done, it can not be justified just by the lack of knowledge and mistakes of the victims.
It will never be real freedom (with responsibility) and real decentralization under these circumstances where cybercrime became the third "economy" in the world, just because it can.
So, everywhere across cyberspace, I've been asking the same question:
"Who is responsible for the thief who stole someone's digital goods and freely continue to another victim?"
Human beings are weak creatures. We all make mistakes and we all pay the price for it in one way or another, but this still doesn't mean that somebody who took profit from our mistakes through criminal activity has the right to avoid punishment so he/she/they can continue freely to the next victim. It will never be accepted and tolerated by the human community.
Freedom with responsibility strongly implies ethics of justice. So, when criminal activity is done, it can not be justified just by the lack of knowledge and mistakes of the victims.
It will never be real freedom (with responsibility) and real decentralization under these circumstances where cybercrime became the third "economy" in the world, just because it can.
you free when you're dead, or you can deploy your digital self (ai) on blockchain then you become number and be part of bitcoin.
Blockchain*
Ne, izgleda da ja pričam kineski
Prvo, jasno je kao dan da je cyber kriminal masovna pojava koja radi veliku globalnu štetu.
Drugo, radi se o cyber lopovu i njegovom/njenom daljem procesuiranju kada je šteta već počinjena u decentralizovanom cyber prostoru (sutra u realnom). Dakle ne o žrtvama, ličnoj odgovornosti, (ne)znanju, obrazovanju, greškama korisnika..itd.
Son, if tomorrow somebody kidnaps or rapes your child, you, like a keyholder of your child's freedom, will be responsible because you haven't cared enough, right?
When criminal activity is done, it can not be justified just by the mistakes of the victims.
Human beings are weak creatures. We all make mistakes and we all pay the price for it in one way or another, but this still doesn't mean that somebody who took profit from our mistakes through criminal activity has the right to avoid punishment so he/she can continue freely to the next victim. It will never be accepted and tolerated by the human community.
Freedom with responsibility strongly implies ethics of justice.
It will never be real freedom (with responsibility) and real decentralization under these circumstances where cybercrime became the third "economy" in the world, just because it can.
Pablo is not dead.
Prvo, jasno je kao dan da je cyber kriminal masovna pojava koja radi veliku globalnu štetu.
Drugo, radi se o cyber lopovu i njegovom/njenom daljem procesuiranju kada je šteta već počinjena u decentralizovanom cyber prostoru (sutra u realnom). Dakle ne o žrtvama, ličnoj odgovornosti, (ne)znanju, obrazovanju, greškama korisnika..itd.
Actually, no one can steal cryptos without the owners who made mistakes while storing their private keys. So the actual owner is responsible if he ever loses his crypto assets.
Son, if tomorrow somebody kidnaps or rapes your child, you, like a keyholder of your child's freedom, will be responsible because you haven't cared enough, right?
When criminal activity is done, it can not be justified just by the mistakes of the victims.
Human beings are weak creatures. We all make mistakes and we all pay the price for it in one way or another, but this still doesn't mean that somebody who took profit from our mistakes through criminal activity has the right to avoid punishment so he/she can continue freely to the next victim. It will never be accepted and tolerated by the human community.
Freedom with responsibility strongly implies ethics of justice.
It will never be real freedom (with responsibility) and real decentralization under these circumstances where cybercrime became the third "economy" in the world, just because it can.
Pablo is not dead.
Actually, no one can steal cryptos without the owners who made mistakes while storing their private keys. So the actual owner is responsible if he ever loses his crypto assets.
Son, if tomorrow somebody kidnaps or rapes your child, you, like a keyholder of your child's freedom, will be responsible because you haven't cared enough, right?
When criminal activity is done, it can not be justified just by the mistakes of the victims.
Human beings are weak creatures. We all make mistakes and we all pay the price for it in one way or another, but this still doesn't mean that somebody who took profit from our mistakes through criminal activity has the right to avoid punishment so he/she can continue freely to the next victim. It will never be accepted and tolerated by the human community.
Freedom with responsibility strongly implies ethics of justice.
It will never be real freedom (with responsibility) and real decentralization under these circumstances where cybercrime became the third "economy" in the world, just because it can.
Pablo is not dead.
Taking responsibility by yourself doesn't mean allow the scammer to roam all around free and keep stealing the money, crypto network is transparent so they will get caught if they are sending it to any exchange or someone else who verified their KYC so its more easier to trace the scammer with blockchain technology.
Here we go again: criminal activity can not be justified just by the mistakes of the victims. The custodians, parents or people in general are not the subject of this thread. Why is so hard to understand?
responsibility is not about blame/accusation.. its about duty of having to deal with/control something/someone
responsibility is on the custodian(key holder/parent)
if its your private keys its your funds. you are responsible for DYOR to learn about the recipient. learn if they can be trusted. and find out who/where/what they are
if you put your funds/kids into someone elses custody. you have not absolved yourself of responsibility but now there are twice as many precautions you have to keep an eye on. and they then have responsibility of their own as well to look after whatever is in their custody
so dont just ignorantly trust them. research them.. because if they wrong you. you have a location and name to identify them to seek justice.
but keep in mind.. prevention is better than after-action.
it does not mean you caused it to happen(bad guys will be bad guys).
but lowering your own precautions will cause things to more than likely happen
even if you do everything possible. and bad things still happen. then at least I hope you have taken responsible actions to limit the risk of them getting away with it.
as for children/kidnapping and rape
when they are in proximity to you. your 100% responsible
when they are not nearby. you still have to have precautions to know where they are going. to teach them what to avoid. to trust they wont get themselves into harms way.
this is not about blaming anyone when it goes wrong. this is about being responsible to prepare and take care to reduce/avoid the risk of it happening.
its not blaming you for causing it after it happens. after all you didnt hire a kidnapper to kidnap
its about taking responsibility to reduce the risk before it happens. to prevent it happening
over-sexualised people will always do what they do. thats not your fault
just reduce the risk of its occurances affecting you or your family.
and if it still happens.. its on the rapist/kidnapper as the person to blame.
responsibility is on the custodian(key holder/parent)
if its your private keys its your funds. you are responsible for DYOR to learn about the recipient. learn if they can be trusted. and find out who/where/what they are
if you put your funds/kids into someone elses custody. you have not absolved yourself of responsibility but now there are twice as many precautions you have to keep an eye on. and they then have responsibility of their own as well to look after whatever is in their custody
so dont just ignorantly trust them. research them.. because if they wrong you. you have a location and name to identify them to seek justice.
but keep in mind.. prevention is better than after-action.
it does not mean you caused it to happen(bad guys will be bad guys).
but lowering your own precautions will cause things to more than likely happen
even if you do everything possible. and bad things still happen. then at least I hope you have taken responsible actions to limit the risk of them getting away with it.
as for children/kidnapping and rape
when they are in proximity to you. your 100% responsible
when they are not nearby. you still have to have precautions to know where they are going. to teach them what to avoid. to trust they wont get themselves into harms way.
this is not about blaming anyone when it goes wrong. this is about being responsible to prepare and take care to reduce/avoid the risk of it happening.
its not blaming you for causing it after it happens. after all you didnt hire a kidnapper to kidnap
its about taking responsibility to reduce the risk before it happens. to prevent it happening
over-sexualised people will always do what they do. thats not your fault
just reduce the risk of its occurances affecting you or your family.
and if it still happens.. its on the rapist/kidnapper as the person to blame.
You've mostly missed the point in your reply as the subject is theft, and not personal responsibillity, own precautions, crypto/cyber education...etc. Its about perpetrators who committed a crime in cyberspace and about who is responsible for them. So, custodians can not be responsible for them. Highly disagree.
Who takes responsibility for a thief who stole someone's digital goods and escapes without punishment in decentralized cyberspace?
Decentralized cyberspace for not everyone. It's not for granny and grad pas who do not know how to use a keyboard, how to browse internet and exchange messages securely. If you have not heard about encryption, done a little study about cryptography, if you do not know how to keep digital assets safely then crypto is not for you. For your own fault do not blame and entire idea.Don't agree and also you've missed the subject which is the thief.
To answer your question in one word,
You
You are responsible to secure your asset.
Look above.
Actually, no one can steal cryptos without the owners who made mistakes while storing their private keys. So the actual owner is responsible if he ever loses his crypto assets.
Negative, at least there is always the possibility of a hard bribe irl from the criminal intelligence work done in cyberspace. Not to mention new ultra hi-tec spyware bots which are able to copy everything 'interesting' you typed on your comp in complete stealth mode.
I still know people who save their private key in Google keep and in another digital platform that they think is secure. They argue google does not have anything else to do to check what I have stored in my Google keep or they think there will never be a data loss in google or in those digital platforms. If anyone is that much stupid then let them lose their money. Let them learn from the mistakes when they will not simply learn from others' experiences. Negative, at least there is always the possibility of a hard bribe irl from the criminal intelligence work done in cyberspace. Not to mention new ultra hi-tec spyware bots which are able to copy everything 'interesting' you typed on your comp in complete stealth mode.
Same as above.
Son, if tomorrow somebody kidnaps or rapes your child, you, like a keyholder of your child's freedom, will be responsible because you haven't cared enough, right?
Are you saying kidnapping and rapes are not happening now and they are not asking to give you money? You are also saying every kidnapping and rape happened so far, the bad guy asked for bitcoin or cryptocurrency to give back your child?Again, you missed the subject. When somebody rapes or kidnaps your daughter/son he/she is committing a crime of the first grade, second grade is the bribe and it really doesn't matter if she/he/they asked to be paid in cryptocurrency, fiat, or anything else valuable.
Pablo is not dead.
I wonder if Pablo still knows how to create a bitcoin wallet.Actually, even at the time of Pablo there was a Kali cartel who won over Pablo at the end. So, can you imagine what happens today and how some highly educated leaders of criminal cartels are running their businesses?
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Mining RTM on Akash.
Any experience?
https://forum.akash.network/t/how-to-mine-raptoreum-rtm-on-akash/3253
Any experience?
https://forum.akash.network/t/how-to-mine-raptoreum-rtm-on-akash/3253
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Interesting update. Any further move in the near future?
Let see where we are now with this "wrong concept" project.
It is 2021 and this "shady" non-blockchain project is still going on, even pretty fine. They are talking now about 800 servers support and already have fully working coin and cross-chain token with 68M market cap. How cool is that?
It is 2021 and this "shady" non-blockchain project is still going on, even pretty fine. They are talking now about 800 servers support and already have fully working coin and cross-chain token with 68M market cap. How cool is that?
I wasn't really going to reply here, but since I was mentioned... Let's go:
You can see cloud cloin here:
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/cloudcoin/
It is listed in one exchange called Bitcoin.com, with a daily volume of 3,000 USD.
So you cannot really sell more than 3,000 USD daily without crashing the price. The price is artificially maintained, you cannot sell it otherwise it will just go to zero. There is basically zero demand for this coin.
If you take a look closely at the chart, there are many days with less than 10 USD volume. There is literally zero demand.
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You got a bone to pick 
so it's cool. If that's just what you want to hear. 800 servers can still be easy to shut down compare to bitcoin which anyone who wants to shut BTC down had to hack everyone in the network. Cloudcoin price ATH is less than $0.02 so if you compare it to BTC price, it's nothing.
Don't take it too seriously bruh, Cloudoin has its own community, I hope they can find some use for the coin.
I'm not into any relly or competition between Cloudcoin and Bitcoin. Just watchin' whats happening in the field of developing alternative technologies to the blockchain. Also, any Bitcoin/Blockchain quasi-elitism and evangelism, simply no me interesa. so it's cool. If that's just what you want to hear. 800 servers can still be easy to shut down compare to bitcoin which anyone who wants to shut BTC down had to hack everyone in the network. Cloudcoin price ATH is less than $0.02 so if you compare it to BTC price, it's nothing. Don't take it too seriously bruh, Cloudoin has its own community, I hope they can find some use for the coin.
So let see how far will this project go.
It is not a matter of shutting down the coin. A centralized blockchain isn't safe.
You can have a smartcontract in those 800 centralized server, which are probably controlled by the CEO laptop. What stop him from changing past blocks adding any information he wants?
As there isn't a decentralized network verifying every block and every transaction, only a centralized network of "800" servers, he can basically change contract rules on the go.
This is not about bitcoin evangelism, this is about understanding how blockchain technology works and why centralized solutions shouldn't use it.
I was reading coinmarketmap description about the coin:
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https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/cloudcoin/
CloudCoins provide a theoretically “perfect” global currency that cannot be counterfeited, double-spent, mined, or lost. Your actions are 100% private, requiring no public ledgers, accounts, or even encryption. Like the Internet itself, it cannot be brought down by governments, hackers, or even nuclear weapons. CloudCoins consist of 3,200 bits of secret data that only the owner knows.
CloudCoins provide a theoretically “perfect” global currency that cannot be counterfeited, double-spent, mined, or lost. Your actions are 100% private, requiring no public ledgers, accounts, or even encryption. Like the Internet itself, it cannot be brought down by governments, hackers, or even nuclear weapons. CloudCoins consist of 3,200 bits of secret data that only the owner knows.
I prefer to stay away from a "global currency" which has an "owner", and the owner has a super secret key that can control it.
There is a many projects in crypto which has started like centralized but later became decentralized, so its not the matter.
About your last quota I absolutely agree.