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在巴比特看到这样的文章：《我是以太坊创始人Vitalik Buterin，关于以太坊的任何问 ...》
关于一个项目达到10亿美元的创始人会离开自己的论坛到一个异国小论坛做客回答问题这样的奇怪行为，我感到深度的怀疑？
相关链接：
以太坊资讯：
以太坊论坛：
以太坊Ethereum新手教程：
还有以上三个链接，也全部在巴比特的站内，我也感受到深深的敌意
关于一个项目达到10亿美元的创始人会离开自己的论坛到一个异国小论坛做客回答问题这样的奇怪行为，我感到深度的怀疑？
相关链接：
以太坊资讯：
以太坊论坛：
以太坊Ethereum新手教程：
还有以上三个链接，也全部在巴比特的站内，我也感受到深深的敌意
何止Vitalik，连Gavin都来了：http://8btc.com/thread-31877-1-1.html
Re: [FUD] China prohibits banks providing settlement services to Bitcoin Exchange
3: BTCCHINA withdrawl issues but this seems to be a browser bug in IE and firefox. google chrome working?
At least in regards to this issue - it does not appear to be a browser bug but instead a bug with their "old website" (an option you can click on).
If you use the "new website" (which is the default for new users) then this problem is not occurring as far as I am aware.
防范比特币风险连出招
央行约谈第三方支付釜底抽薪？
http://epaper.yicai.com:81/site1/html/2013-12/17/content_198652.htm
严湘君
央行规定第三方支付机构不得为比特币交易网站提供托管、交易等业务。昨天下午，央行召集第三方支付公司开会透露出上述消息。
《第一财经日报》记者独家获悉，继12月5日发布《关于防范比特币风险的通知》（下称《通知》）后，央行昨日再度出击，约谈10余家第三方支付公司相关负责人，明确要求其不得给比特币、莱特币（LTC）等的交易网站提供支付与清算业务。
在半个月不到的时间里，央行连出两招防范比特币风险，而此次会议所传达的精神更是被不少比特币业内人士解读为釜底抽薪。
第三方支付三条线
一家大型第三方支付公司的参会人士对本报记者证实，昨天上午，10余家第三方支付公司受到央行召集，在北京召开了一次闭门会议。上述人士在接受本报记者采访时透露，会议由央行支付结算司副司长周金黄主持，每家公司都派出了1~2名相关人士参会。
周司长在会议开始时就明确指出，此次会议并非是召集各家公司讨论关于比特币的相关业务是否能开展，而是传达央行高层的态度，即首先第三方支付公司不得给比特币、莱特币等交易网站提供支付和清算服务；其次，对于已经发生业务的支付机构应解除合作，存量款最迟在春节前完成提现，不得发生新的支付业务；第三，严格执行12月5日央行发布的《通知》。上述第三方支付公司人士告诉本报记者。
另据本报记者拿到的第三方支付公司一位参会人员所记录的会议纪要，此次会议，除规定不允许境内第三方支付机构从事与比特币相关的业务外，央行也会在会后研究针对在境内接入比特币相关业务的境外支付机构的相关规定。
周金黄在传达相关精神后，各家支付公司均作出了将严格执行上述三条要求的表态。但值得注意的是，全球最活跃的交易网站之一BTCC（比特币中国）以及比特币、莱特币交易网站OKCOIN已经将第三方支付机构从原先合作的财付通换成了另一家第三方支付公司，同时，有用户反映，两家网站目前只能用财付通提现，但不能通过其充值。
支付宝一直都没有和任何比特币交易网站有过商业合作，支付宝相关人士在接受本报记者采访时表示，如果有投资者发现充值渠道为支付宝，则需要警惕对方是否为个人账户，如果确实是个人账户，请投资者一定要留意风险。
有比特币业内人士认为，从昨日央行会议的内容来看，央行对于比特币可能造成的风险防范力度较大，但他也同时表示出不解，因为此举或许会令原本在线上公开透明的比特币交易平台转移至地下，监管难度更会随之上升。
比特币在中国未来堪忧？
《通知》发出来之后，我们就在担心第三方支付这个事情会不会就做不了了，没想到一语成谶了。一家比特币交易网站负责人在听到上述消息后对本报记者说。
与《通知》发出后绝大部分业内人士所认为的口径较为宽松，甚至监管的一次创新不同，此次央行会议的精神明显给比特币行业造成了一定的打击。不少业内人士都表示，比特币在中国未来的发展形势堪忧，将选择不同程度的出逃，或转移至境外交易平台进行比特币交易。
此前，央行的《通知》曾明确要求现阶段各金融机构和支付机构不得开展与比特币相关的业务，不得以比特币为产品或服务定价，不得买卖或作为中央对手买卖比特币，不得承保与比特币相关的保险业务或将比特币纳入保险责任范围等。《通知》发出后，虽然比特币市场有所异动，出现短时间的下跌，但很快即收复失地。
而昨日的会议会对比特币价格造成多大影响还不得而知，但截至本报记者发稿，BTCC上比特币的价格已经从昨日最高的5335元下跌至4600元，下跌幅度为15%。
（本报记者夏心愉对此文亦有贡献）
Re: China prohibits banks providing settlement services to Bitcoin Exchange
User was already banned/deleted from weibo - this could likely be FUD.
Quotes dont liebtcchina http://info.btc123.com/index_btcchina.php
[FUD] China prohibits banks providing settlement services to Bitcoin Exchange
Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)
Wang Zhenhua's true identity
0755-84869996 王振华 13828833447 深圳市华亚科技开发有限公司（传真：07558406）中国 广东 深圳市 深圳市龙岗区坪地年丰工业区
http://www.h303.cn/web1/9020.shtml
0755-84869996 王振华 13828833447 深圳市华亚科技开发有限公司（传真：07558406）中国 广东 深圳市 深圳市龙岗区坪地年丰工业区
http://www.h303.cn/web1/9020.shtml
13923836781 this phone i have called 5 times at 3,4 days ago , but no one answered
and i just find this
http://www.szicc.net/Portals/CompanyIndex.aspx?UID=227
but...it's so empty
and BTW, I just saw avalon begin shipping around 40,000 daily so.....
Bold assumption
first, we know avalon chip now shipped,
Suppose I am a liar,and i have planted , I may bought a small number like 2K ~ 2.5K of avalon chip at batch 2,3
Then tell everyone I have successfully developed ready to enter production,
but on arrival I received then remove the Laser Engraving from avalon Chip
and then? you knows....
Then claimed that the next generation of chips being debugged, such as 65 nm or 45 nm or even 22 nm
it's that Possible??
OK, I sold it all earlier, for now, but I want to invest again, when everything becomes real.
and Some people say that is fake picture, but what can I say, they are all found on the Internet
it's a lot bug on the picture, it's not make sense
BTW my English is poor , because English not my mother language , so i will not sorry for that.
And i come from Taiwan, Not some third world countries
everything what I do, is trying to find answer,
I want buy some cheap share, but not in this way.
I just want to have some real proof to support my investment
so,that's the last post, I will not post anymore until got something real
I hope u guys understand.
nick
http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6870/fa10.jpg
and i just find this
http://www.szicc.net/Portals/CompanyIndex.aspx?UID=227
but...it's so empty
and BTW, I just saw avalon begin shipping around 40,000 daily so.....
Bold assumption
first, we know avalon chip now shipped,
Suppose I am a liar,and i have planted , I may bought a small number like 2K ~ 2.5K of avalon chip at batch 2,3
Then tell everyone I have successfully developed ready to enter production,
but on arrival I received then remove the Laser Engraving from avalon Chip
and then? you knows....
Then claimed that the next generation of chips being debugged, such as 65 nm or 45 nm or even 22 nm
it's that Possible??
OK, I sold it all earlier, for now, but I want to invest again, when everything becomes real.
and Some people say that is fake picture, but what can I say, they are all found on the Internet
it's a lot bug on the picture, it's not make sense
BTW my English is poor , because English not my mother language , so i will not sorry for that.
And i come from Taiwan, Not some third world countries
everything what I do, is trying to find answer,
I want buy some cheap share, but not in this way.
I just want to have some real proof to support my investment
so,that's the last post, I will not post anymore until got something real
I hope u guys understand.
nick
http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6870/fa10.jpg
May i ask some questions?
because i trying to get more information from labcoin ,and now I have a little uncertainty
1 Why TSMC Logo deformed, and the TSMC Logo is a very old version, there are red lines should not orange, i don't think they use the deformed Logo especially for the professional company like TSMC
2.TSMC is a Taiwanese company, but why from "3.jpeg" seems all language used from China.
3 Why product code in "2.JPG" seems LBC1301/02, but LBCX1301/02 in "3.JPG"
4 Until now, the published information, has not any proof like real pictures, videos, etc, everything is only talk and dream. and the only picture is the Cyclone FPGA, Also,
I have noticed beside a business card,from the URL on the card, I can find a Company specialized for the test equiment（maybe means nothing）.
5 That Customer Information form looks very unprofessional especially for the professional company like TSMC
6 that MPW form the mobile number I have call 4,5 times, but never answered, especially that mobile number is the contact number for the TSMC
7 and i find that in other post "http://trilema.com/2013/the-anatomy-of-a-scam/"
BTW the 1,2,3.jpg i got it form here http://labcoin.com/img/ and here http://labcoin.com/docs/
so, thank you
http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/9840/1xfu.jpg
because i trying to get more information from labcoin ,and now I have a little uncertainty
1 Why TSMC Logo deformed, and the TSMC Logo is a very old version, there are red lines should not orange, i don't think they use the deformed Logo especially for the professional company like TSMC
2.TSMC is a Taiwanese company, but why from "3.jpeg" seems all language used from China.
3 Why product code in "2.JPG" seems LBC1301/02, but LBCX1301/02 in "3.JPG"
4 Until now, the published information, has not any proof like real pictures, videos, etc, everything is only talk and dream. and the only picture is the Cyclone FPGA, Also,
I have noticed beside a business card,from the URL on the card, I can find a Company specialized for the test equiment（maybe means nothing）.
5 That Customer Information form looks very unprofessional especially for the professional company like TSMC
6 that MPW form the mobile number I have call 4,5 times, but never answered, especially that mobile number is the contact number for the TSMC
7 and i find that in other post "http://trilema.com/2013/the-anatomy-of-a-scam/"
BTW the 1,2,3.jpg i got it form here http://labcoin.com/img/ and here http://labcoin.com/docs/
so, thank you
http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/9840/1xfu.jpg
Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)
@wjsqsn
try more hard, I want cheap shares too.
我的QQ: 2931354707
try more hard, I want cheap shares too.
我的QQ: 2931354707
you didnt have a phone? 2B
Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)
The selloff was gonna happen once it became clear that no news was coming. Yes, theswede sort of confirmed that but the price would have dropped anyway. It had already started to drop 10 minutes before. Look it up. Look at the posts before his. Like this one:
The sell off has started, who wants to be the bag holder?
At the time, that post stuck out to me as expertly placed FUD.
At the time that post was made there was some dumping going on (probably from the poster).. I sold mine right after that expertly timed post.
It's proved to be a Scam, I called the phone Last night, the man named WangZhenHua（王振华） denied that he related with labcoin. The Phone numbers still can be read, 13923836781, anyone can call and find truth.
Labcoin belongs to iTec company,which is actually located in Shenzhen Integrated Circuit Design Industrial Base (SZICC) ,in the company's contact column, post the real phone, but when somebody call for asking labcoin matters, who answered the phone seems to be surprised about the phone number' reveal. shortly after the call, the contact page of the company was changed immediately, and now the webpage closed (http://www.szicc.net / Portals / LinkUs.aspx? UID = 227).
Contact the original screenshot
http://www.btcpie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/QQ%E5%9B%BE%E7%89%8720130824124430.jpg
After being replaced by:
http://www.btcpie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/QQ%E5%9B%BE%E7%89%8720130824130432.jpg
Labcoin has released over MPW service customer booking information form
http://www.btcpie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/QQ%E5%9B%BE%E7%89%8720130824124437.jpg
Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)
TheSwede75：
can you explain why a votor of BTCT commented that "I wouldn't trust the operator at all, well known troll"?
can you explain why a votor of BTCT commented that "I wouldn't trust the operator at all, well known troll"?
UPDATE:
I was pretty 'Trolly' and outspoken in my early days especially in the BTC-E.com's trollbox. Since then I "got over" Alt Currencies and chilled out a lot. If anyone wants to judge me based on Trollbox chatter, I guess that is up to them. I would probably consider my flawless trading history, group-buy organization etc more important factors when assessing my 'honesty' though. Besides that, I am not one of the Founders or Developers inside Labcoin but just someone that helped out in the IPO and serves as an additional communication resource, so I am not sure why me being a 'troll' would have to do with the Security.
TLDR: I may have (have had) a big mouth and short temper from time to time, but I have never scammed anyone.
OUTSTANDING SHARES:
Also I was asked to clarify the 'outstanding shares' on BTCT.CO. For some time the outstanding shares on BTCT.CO was incorrect (not sure why, probably due to the script we ran to place the shares). This number is now 10 Million (10.000.000) which represents ALL the shares of Labcoin. This number will NOT change and Labcoin will NOT sell more shares. I hope that clears up any confusion.
Q/A UPDATE:
The coming days Developer from Labcoin as well as Sam himself will answer technical/development questions as well as describe the near future. Expect several posts.
This is not an explanation. Like I said, BTCT only shows shares as outstanding if they have been sold or rendered to another account by doing an internal share transfer. The total Outstanding should be 7m, not 10m
I am sorry, now I understand what you are asking in "This is not an explanation. Like I said, BTCT only shows shares as outstanding if they have been sold or rendered to another account by doing an internal share transfer. The total Outstanding should be 7m, not 10m"
The reason for all 10 million being 'listed' is the fact that the Founder shares (3 million) has now been transferred out of the original IPO account and into the individual Labcoin team (developers, founder etc). This transfer is the reason all 10 million is now seen as the 'outstanding shares' amount.
I hope that answers your question. I also personally think that this is more 'honest' since the 'Market Cap' is now based on all available shares and not only the 7 million placed in the IPO.
In other words, you can sell whenever you want and no one will know.
Bingo! The shares should not have been rendered. What incentive does the company have to work at all if they can just sell all their own shares?
I would assume this is true for all listed companies on BTCT.CO. I do think that since the Founders already have over $150.000 invested in development, pre-production etc. Selling a ton of shares in a project they have been involved in for a year and giving up dividends and possible higher valuation for a quick but seems very counter intuitive.
The Phone numbers still can be read, you can call and find truth.
Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)
A Downright Scam?
Labcoin belongs to iTec company,which is actually located in Shenzhen Integrated Circuit Design Industrial Base (SZICC) ,in the company's contact column, post the real phone, but when somebody call for asking labcoin matters, who answered the phone seems to be surprised about the phone number' reveal. shortly after the call, the contact page of the company was changed immediately, and now the webpage closed (http://www.szicc.net / Portals / LinkUs.aspx? UID = 227).
Contact the original screenshot
http://www.btcpie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/QQ%E5%9B%BE%E7%89%8720130824124430.jpg
After being replaced by:
http://www.btcpie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/QQ%E5%9B%BE%E7%89%8720130824130432.jpg
Labcoin has released over MPW service customer booking information form
http://www.btcpie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/QQ%E5%9B%BE%E7%89%8720130824124437.jpg
Labcoin belongs to iTec company,which is actually located in Shenzhen Integrated Circuit Design Industrial Base (SZICC) ,in the company's contact column, post the real phone, but when somebody call for asking labcoin matters, who answered the phone seems to be surprised about the phone number' reveal. shortly after the call, the contact page of the company was changed immediately, and now the webpage closed (http://www.szicc.net / Portals / LinkUs.aspx? UID = 227).
Contact the original screenshot
http://www.btcpie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/QQ%E5%9B%BE%E7%89%8720130824124430.jpg
After being replaced by:
http://www.btcpie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/QQ%E5%9B%BE%E7%89%8720130824130432.jpg
Labcoin has released over MPW service customer booking information form
http://www.btcpie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/QQ%E5%9B%BE%E7%89%8720130824124437.jpg
Yes it looks like a scam to me-- very shady the timing of the announcement the chips have arrived from a factory, (very important shipment!!) but TheSwede75 and the CEO told that their is no news at all
I think 2500 chips is surely big news, so why was this information hidden from these two important partners?everybody has a camera phone in 2013- I wonder why he can't take a photo of the chips in front of him.
can anybody provide a reason why they would not be able to do so?
The reason is very simple, if they was photoed, they will be caught and thrown in jail
Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)
@wjsqsn
not again right? jezus...
not again right? jezus...
In China，This Scam is being exposed
You're a scam at your own.
The market already react in advance，Wait and see
Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)
@wjsqsn
not again right? jezus...
not again right? jezus...
In China，This Scam is being exposed
Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)
A Downright Scam?
Labcoin belongs to iTec company,which is actually located in Shenzhen Integrated Circuit Design Industrial Base (SZICC) ,in the company's contact column, post the real phone, but when somebody call for asking labcoin matters, who answered the phone seems to be surprised about the phone number' reveal. shortly after the call, the contact page of the company was changed immediately, and now the webpage closed (http://www.szicc.net / Portals / LinkUs.aspx? UID = 227).
Contact the original screenshot
http://www.btcpie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/QQ%E5%9B%BE%E7%89%8720130824124430.jpg
After being replaced by:
http://www.btcpie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/QQ%E5%9B%BE%E7%89%8720130824130432.jpg
Labcoin has released over MPW service customer booking information form
http://www.btcpie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/QQ%E5%9B%BE%E7%89%8720130824124437.jpg
Labcoin belongs to iTec company,which is actually located in Shenzhen Integrated Circuit Design Industrial Base (SZICC) ,in the company's contact column, post the real phone, but when somebody call for asking labcoin matters, who answered the phone seems to be surprised about the phone number' reveal. shortly after the call, the contact page of the company was changed immediately, and now the webpage closed (http://www.szicc.net / Portals / LinkUs.aspx? UID = 227).
Contact the original screenshot
http://www.btcpie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/QQ%E5%9B%BE%E7%89%8720130824124430.jpg
After being replaced by:
http://www.btcpie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/QQ%E5%9B%BE%E7%89%8720130824130432.jpg
Labcoin has released over MPW service customer booking information form
http://www.btcpie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/QQ%E5%9B%BE%E7%89%8720130824124437.jpg