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Re: [ANN] Bancor | Protocol for Smart-tokens, solving the liquidity problem
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yoo10
on 25/06/2017, 16:40:18 UTC
CURRENT PRICE
0.010427 ETH
$3.3621
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Re: Read this carefully and consider what just happened.
by
yoo10
on 13/06/2017, 16:41:32 UTC
I will just start boldly. The Bancor business model is pretty close to a scam. I am sure you will not take my word for it, because this is my first post. In fact, I made this account because I find it bizarre that no one is talking about this. Let's be honest, which one of you truly tried to comprehend their mathematical proof? Not a single person who invested at least, because otherwise they would not have wasted their money. I will try to explain a little.

They collected pretty close to 400k ether. Essentially what they do, is keep .8*400k ETH = 320k ETH to themselves, and call the remaining 80k reserves. They will express this 80k in a different coin, called BNT. They assign 100 BNT to 1ETH that they received. That means there is 500BNT for every 1ETH in the reserves. Essentially, if everyone would want to convert their BNT back to ETH, they would get 1/500 ETH per BNT. Wait you say, in the white paper it says that the starting price of 100BNT will equal 1 ETH! This is true, this is where the mathematics uses a trick to hide what is going on. Their pricing formula, P=R/(S*F) ensures that the first BNT sold will be sold at a 'fair' value, namely equal to the amount of ETH you spent to buy it in the first place. After the first sell, things get worse rather quickly. Let's illustrate this by a little example:

Lets say that 10% of people who own BNT sell it back to ETH via the smart contract. For the initial price we get: P = 80k/(40m*.2) = 0.01. All looks fair. Then after the sell we get 40m*10%*0.01 = 40k,  P = 80k-40k/((40m-4m)*0.20) = 0,00556. Ouch, the price almost dropped to half value from the 10% sell-off (this is different if there are many small transactions but I will get to that later).

If people buy the same amount of BNT, this is what happens: P = 120k/(44m*0.20) = 0.01364. The increase in price is not nearly as interesting for the next person. But again, this will be lower for many small transactions.

I created a plot assuming transactions are made in small batches of BNT coins. We find that the BNT value drop VERY quickly when people start selling, and does not rise nearly as fast. Essentially this just makes BNT an undesirable coin. Another weird thing about their system is that it does not consider convexity. This means that big transactions will get very different prices than many small ones. This just does not make sense, but they don't care as they simply took your money.
http://imgur.com/a/f9yLy

If you are still not convinced, consider this. They literally admit to taking 80% of your money. All they give back is some mathematical trick based on 20% of the ether that you gave them. Do you really believe they just generated x5 value out of thin air? Sorry, but math does not work that way. I would recommend getting rid of your BNT asap, or you end up all the way on the left side of the graph. I am sorry that this news comes a bit late for some of you... I didn't read their methodology until last night Sad

Maybe now you can start to add up why the ICO was strange in various ways.

As final words, don't just believe whatever I say. Think about it for yourself. I gain nothing by convincing you of whatever I write here, I am simply sharing thoughts.

BNT is reserved by ETH at only 10% reserve ratio, not 20%. And a big transaction get the same price as many small ones, this is how their price discovery formula works.  But you are right that BNT price is going drop very quickly when people start selling.



Yes.  "The Bancor protocol enables built-in price discovery and a liquidity mechanism for tokens on smart contract blockchains. " Especial benefit the long-tail currencies.
 
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Re: [ANN] Bancor | Protocol for Smart-tokens, solving the liquidity problem
by
yoo10
on 12/06/2017, 15:35:38 UTC
https://twitter.com/BancorNetwork/status/874283097143037954

According to this they have extended to uncapped ICO time.


WTF is this? Why change rule while everyone is playing game? Its completely unacceptable.

Code is not the law... sad
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Re: [ANN] Bancor | Protocol for Smart-tokens, solving the liquidity problem
by
yoo10
on 12/06/2017, 10:38:16 UTC
How much of this move to $400 do you guys think is people buying eth to buy bnc? I doubt this is coincidence.

This is probably because of China conference this week. People want to buy more ETH to be prepared for the Chinese ETH rally.

I bought 35 eth not even a week ago and it's almost doubled in price, I'm really stunned because I thought $245 was high.

it's not doubled, unless you sold it.

I bought it to play with some icos and as of right now the value of them has almost doubled. Not sure what you are talking about.

He means: it is money just when u sold out.
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Re: [ANN] Bancor | Protocol for Smart-tokens, solving the liquidity problem
by
yoo10
on 12/06/2017, 03:16:50 UTC
Are we going to see how much is collected as it comes in? I don't want anything to do with this if it is anywhere near 1m ether.

Agree, 1m is too much, watching & decide
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Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
by
yoo10
on 28/08/2014, 17:49:54 UTC

xc seems lose its magic. ATC doesn't say anything after 17th.

He's working on coding there is a reason why XC has a pr and community team. Also he replied to questions in our forum.

sorry for my words. I'll be there ^^

I am waiting for the UI preview
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Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
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yoo10
on 28/08/2014, 17:18:58 UTC

xc seems lose its magic. ATC doesn't say anything after 17th.
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Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
by
yoo10
on 26/08/2014, 10:35:11 UTC

The UI is so low that isn't professional.

We all says a scam coin just clone bitcoin and even don't change the theme of the wallet.
I think xc is a good coin and i have thousands.
Btsx is popular these days, look at it's UI, cool & professional.

so, New UI Preview?

It's coming with the official launch of rev 3. More important to get the fundamentals right before creating a fancy pants wallet. Let the scam coins stay busy with "pea cocking" while Dan and the team stay focused on tech. I'm sure they have some nice wallet features planned for us.

Actually, OP says the New UI Preview is coming out at rev 2.5.

 I know, my point is that ui is also important to show visual technology ability and friendly User Experience.
 It's principal. Do not say features inside blabla, if you have a owner product, you mean what i said and what "also" means.
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Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
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yoo10
on 26/08/2014, 04:27:41 UTC

The UI is so low that isn't professional.

We all says a scam coin just clone bitcoin and even don't change the theme of the wallet.
I think xc is a good coin and i have thousands.
Btsx is popular these days, look at it's UI, cool & professional.

so, New UI Preview?
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Re: [ANN] [SFR] SaffronCoin Multi Algo X11|Blake - SFRMS | SFRBit | SFRSend+
by
yoo10
on 25/07/2014, 18:39:27 UTC
keycoin is a p&d for mother fuckers who take it up the ass.

the same bastard whales manipulating a low supply coin just like shld. soon these fuckers will burn in hell.

saffron is a 68k coin with current tech, but wolong does not care.

50 sats in 1 hour.

screw you and your wolong men hahahaha

wolong wolong wolong get the Wolong out of this thread

aha, fud is so easy, funny

a new account just post two, wooo, you know wolong who is and what he will do, sounds like you are a big man LOL.
Don't hide in shadow, fat dog with maggots covered man.
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Re: [ANN][PRT] Particle | CPU/GPU, Fast, Easy Mine, * NO PREMINE * | Official Thread
by
yoo10
on 20/07/2014, 03:10:33 UTC
thought it already had lol. shame really, sooo much potential with that wallet! May Moonmoon be eternally cursed,

It's funny ^^

He is dead in hospital because of the flu half a year ago.

After then he disappeared again and again.  So historians call this flu: A new flu, named "Careful, you may disappear", it's not his fault, just this flu is too strong to deal with.

So fxxk this guy, damn it!
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Re: [ANN][SHA]SHACoin - 2.0.0.0 - Returned from the Dead
by
yoo10
on 24/06/2014, 17:17:08 UTC
can bittrex add us?
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Re: [ANN][PRT] Particle | CPU/GPU, Fast, Easy Mine, * NO PREMINE * | Official Thread
by
yoo10
on 24/06/2014, 16:16:47 UTC

The big holder must hire a new dev to fork a new branch, try reborning this coin. otherwise it's nothing.

Let's try find out who moonmoon is.


It's hard time , it seems the dev doesn't care about the coin , all the holder don't know where to go , We are attracted by the beautiful plans , invest a lots of money ....we don't know what the progress ,  until now no any plan come true .
the coin need a revolution to reborn .
if you guys still keep complaining about PRT, maybe the dev will give up and let it die. maybe the dev had gave up already. :-\fuck

Beautiful logic "), funny, the reason why always dev disappears is that we guys didn't continue suck his asshole?!

Go on, man, keep praying for your god moon who would lead you to da moon, just "hold you prt", funny, Do you remeber the picture "hold your prt"?
yeah, i had made one picture about "hold your prt", maybe you said is my work. by the way, if you have good ability, i can keep crying up you and your ASSHOLE. i am not a kind of idolatry, i am very angry about moonmoon too, but what i can do to fix him? fuck his asshole? maybe i want to do that if you tell me where can i find him. i am glad to find out this guy and fuck his asshole, whoever he is. but can you tell me this?
so right now, i think we must preserve our solidarity, vote PRT on mintpal, if we can launch on mintpal, the price will go better and we don't need moon, we do it ourself. don't you think so buddy?

I think what we can do is trying to reborn this coin, because the wallet is open source in github. But i am not the one who have enough skill so that is why i am so angry for this scam man. of course, no amazing wallet anymore.
Anyway, dump the coin to catch another whale or make one.
Vote on mintpal is nothing for a coin without dev.
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Re: [ANN][PRT] Particle | CPU/GPU, Fast, Easy Mine, * NO PREMINE * | Official Thread
by
yoo10
on 24/06/2014, 09:05:38 UTC

The big holder must hire a new dev to fork a new branch, try reborning this coin. otherwise it's nothing.

Let's try find out who moonmoon is.


It's hard time , it seems the dev doesn't care about the coin , all the holder don't know where to go , We are attracted by the beautiful plans , invest a lots of money ....we don't know what the progress ,  until now no any plan come true .
the coin need a revolution to reborn .
if you guys still keep complaining about PRT, maybe the dev will give up and let it die. maybe the dev had gave up already. :-\fuck

Beautiful logic "), funny, the reason why always dev disappears is that we guys didn't continue suck his asshole?!

Go on, man, keep praying for your god moon who would lead you to da moon, just "hold you prt", funny, Do you remeber the picture "hold your prt"?
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Re: [ANN][PRT] Particle | CPU/GPU, Fast, Easy Mine, * NO PREMINE * | Official Thread
by
yoo10
on 24/06/2014, 04:39:27 UTC

The big holder must hire a new dev to fork a new branch, try reborning this coin. otherwise it's nothing.

Let's try find out who moonmoon is.
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Re: [ANN][PRT] Particle | CPU/GPU, Fast, Easy Mine, * NO PREMINE * | Official Thread
by
yoo10
on 20/06/2014, 05:56:44 UTC
moon, is the cloakcoin made by you?

Yes, so don't invest cloak, because the dev is a son of Bxx!!
are you sure about this?  price of cloak is going to the moon to fuck moon Grin
wooooo. that must be very funny, why do you guys know cloak is made by moon?
Because the first pool of cloak is using pool of prt.

So this man will develop another coin when annon coin is not popular.  So do not be a long term investor in his coin!
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Re: [ANN][PRT] Particle | CPU/GPU, Fast, Easy Mine, * NO PREMINE * | Official Thread
by
yoo10
on 20/06/2014, 02:14:22 UTC
moon, is the cloakcoin made by you?

Yes, so don't invest cloak, because the dev is a son of Bxx!!
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Re: [ANN][PRT] Particle | CPU/GPU, Fast, Easy Mine, * NO PREMINE * | Official Thread
by
yoo10
on 19/06/2014, 02:33:22 UTC
has the moon disappeared again???

maybe the name should be changed into Eclipse?? seeing how the Moon loves to disappear so much!!!?

Because he is a *** of *****, you know, damn it!
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Re: [ANN][PRT] Particle | CPU/GPU, Fast, Easy Mine, * NO PREMINE * | Official Thread
by
yoo10
on 12/06/2014, 11:22:55 UTC
What the person promised is shit!

Long term investors are blind shit who believed in this shit man & where is the shit "weekly updates"?

Bullshit!

Ok, take it easy, sell all the prt and buy xc now.
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Re: [ANN][PRT] Particle | CPU/GPU, Fast, Easy Mine, * NO PREMINE * | Official Thread
by
yoo10
on 12/06/2014, 02:08:57 UTC
i think moon is coding on cloakcoin now. Smiley
you know too much about it
when PRT price rise to moon, moonmoon will come out, or he will not come out. and fuck moonmoon, just talk big then do nothing. you are fucking kidding us all the time. fuk you.

Is Anybody interesting to find out this fuck coin's real latitude & longitude & something else?