Withdrawal received. Duelbits its not a scam!

First of all, I regret this situation! It's always very annoying to suffer a blow.
I'm from Portugal and I also spoke with him via telegram and here on the forum.

Since I never gave him much confidence and so I did not analyze the conversations and information indicated by him.

When I learned about this topic, I went to analyze the information I have, to see what I could help.

And making a more careful analysis of the way he wrote, despite not being a bad Portuguese, it was a very careless way. Which is not normal.
As I said at the time, I understood that, but I didn't care, because he never asked me for anything either.

He also told me that he was from Vila Franca de Xira, but honestly, I have my doubts.

His telephone number associated with the Telegram is +31 687767940. This is not a Portuguese number. I hadn't noticed it before, until today.
This is a number from the Netherlands and I found other information that regrettably indicates that it is possible fraud:
https://opgelicht.avrotros.nl/forum/handelsites-bv-marktplaats-en-ebay-f26/s-r-wilkens-uit-middelburg-t34326.html

Today I still tried to talk to him via Telegram, but he didn't answer of course. I regret not having more information to give.

But if I can help with anything else, just say so.

"So that I can cheat better next time."


Again, this is a known player, who has been previously banned at least twice. We would never withhold funds without certainty. A deposit refund is not due in this case, as he has received more than his deposit back on his other accounts. This is the recommended action by SBR and other leading 3rd party mediators. If the player would like to bring his case up to a 3rd party mediator, we would be happy to provide the clear, ample evidence to them and abide by their ruling. Additionally, last time we closed his account, we warned him that if he continued making accounts, the deposit would be seized, as that is our only deterrent in cases of malicious abuse, such as this. We have him on record agreeing to this resolution on a previous account.

If you have any questions about this player's character, please review his other open accusation.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5380569.0
Why would he need to send someone money to place bets for him? Why is he not able to place bets for himself? Obviously, there is more to this scheme than he is letting on, and while it is certainly unacceptable for the other party to have run off with the money, what they were attempting is against the rules of nearly all sportsbooks.

We strongly encourage any player with a dispute to contact a reputable third party mediator, who will listen to both sides and make a ruling based on the evidence given. As far as this forum goes, we hope our reputation speaks for itself. We would certainly never do anything to break the trust of our many users, and we pay out much larger amounts than this all day long to legitimate users. Thank you.

"So that I can cheat better next time."


Again, this is a known player, who has been previously banned at least twice. We would never withhold funds without certainty. A deposit refund is not due in this case, as he has received more than his deposit back on his other accounts. This is the recommended action by SBR and other leading 3rd party mediators. If the player would like to bring his case up to a 3rd party mediator, we would be happy to provide the clear, ample evidence to them and abide by their ruling. Additionally, last time we closed his account, we warned him that if he continued making accounts, the deposit would be seized, as that is our only deterrent in cases of malicious abuse, such as this. We have him on record agreeing to this resolution on a previous account.

If you have any questions about this player's character, please review his other open accusation.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5380569.0
Why would he need to send someone money to place bets for him? Why is he not able to place bets for himself? Obviously, there is more to this scheme than he is letting on, and while it is certainly unacceptable for the other party to have run off with the money, what they were attempting is against the rules of nearly all sportsbooks.

We strongly encourage any player with a dispute to contact a reputable third party mediator, who will listen to both sides and make a ruling based on the evidence given. As far as this forum goes, we hope our reputation speaks for itself. We would certainly never do anything to break the trust of our many users, and we pay out much larger amounts than this all day long to legitimate users. Thank you.

maybe this user @TryNinja  can have more information about him, I saw in the scammers historical post that he was talking to @TryNinja

By the way, don't you consider accepting his offer to pay you 200 euros a month?

if you get in contact with neteller and skrill I believe they will forward this case to the police and block his account

It looks like he's a serial scammer because the second person received similar kinds of messages, meaning he could probably be doing the same thing to many other members

I also don't understand how OP trusted a complete stranger with 1,263 Euro.

Our thread is self moderated, however as you can see we have deleted posts from 2 users in 6 years, both of which were for spam. This player commented on our ANN thread and we left the complaint up and promptly replied at that time.


As always, any player who is able to follow the rules, which exist at every sportsbook, will have no problems and we have tens of thousands of people cashing out on a regular basis, many for much larger amounts than this player attempted. Thanks and best of luck to all!

just to be clear did you send him money so he would make a bet for you and he would send you profits? Is that?

Can both of you @javier26 and @younger41 please add the telegram links or handles which ratas uses?

I am trying to connect the dots to prove how ratas is linked to the telegram accounts. I will tag and flag the account if he is proven to be a scammer or suspicious

and your problem will only get worse to be solved because they have the famous and annoying:

" This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. (47 posts by 2+ users deleted.) "

but I'll have to ask you this, have you already posted these proofs in their thread?

I wonder why they won't agree to make you KYC and solve this whole problem?

I remember you have asked about it in their ANN thread one month ago. I'm quoting the reply of Betcoin.ag here


I have suggested you to create a scam accusation with proper proof at the time. You took one month to do it, but still you haven't provided any valid proof. However, it's clear that Betcoin.ag hasn't accepted your withdrawal request. They only said that you have multiple accounts and used one kind of technology to place bets. I think this case will be closed if they can provide the proof of your abuse with multiple accounts. I have sent a message to the user ‘Betcoin.AG’. Hopefully he will reply here soon.