postingnya agak gak konsisten. dari angkanya sudah melampaui (1,5jt sudah lebih dari 1,18 juta) tapi kenapa ditulis "dalam waktu dekat akan dapat mengungguli"?

lalu, membandingkan jumlah investor tidak terlalu relevan ya, apalagi juga profil investornya berbeda. yang lebih cocok dibandingkan adalah trading volume. kalau kita bandingkan trading volume vip sebagai exchange terbesar di indo https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/bitcoin-indonesia/ vs BEI http://www.idx.co.id/id-id/beranda/publikasi/statistik.aspx rasanya masih jauh gan (Rp 240miliar/24h vs Rp 9000miliar/hari).

lalu, angka 1,5juta ini dari mana ya? tingkat kepercayaan/verifikasinya lebih rendah dibandingkan angka yang dilaporkan BEI karena tingkat transparansi sebuah cryptoexchange di bawah BEI

ia, spot ROI harusnya jangan dijadikan patokan utama dalam berinvestasi. masalahnya, spot ROI itu angka tunggal yang begitu mudah dilihat dan dibandingkan, jadi akhirnya investor terjebak ke arah sana.

ROI di masternode kan biasanya dihitungnya berdasarkan coin itu sendiri. harusnya dihitung berdasarkan BTC atau USD, dengan harga historikal. supaya lebih representatif.

hey, you took IN and IND country codes from us! :p

that's your right to visit or not visit whatever place you want. funny though how you compare a country (indonesia) with a city (sydney). why not compare jakarta vs sydney or indonesia vs australia?

btw, from my last visit there, sydney is not among my favorite city even compared to other australian cities. lots of beggars or people being wasted on the streets. and it's a bit dirty. melbourne is much nicer.

may i know where you are from then?

why? what's wrong with the term "rich"? also it's interesting how you seem to highlight irian jaya but mistyped it. 

i wish nothing but success for the bitocto team. jangan lupa perhatikan dan prioritaskan security juga min ya? biar uang trader/investor tetap aman. amin.

fee withdraw masih lebih murah di luno kan?

tapi mudah2an vip juga menurunkan lagi IDR withdrawal fee

dikasih waktu setahun juga ane kayaknya sulit memahami kalimat agan nih gan :p

you're right of course. calculating from the base currency or the other currency at the same percentage will still result in the same amount. don't know what i was thinking.  

i think i got confused with trading volume and fee schedules. exchanges usually give discounts for fees according to 30-day trading volume. quoting trading volume in BTC vs in USD makes a difference because when BTC price go up, it's harder to get into the higher bracket with the same amount of trading in USD terms.

gak baru2 amat, sudah hampir setahun.

volume ETH tidak ditampilkan, itu yang saya tanyakan gan.

belum lama2 amat, baru pertengahan tahun lalu beroperasi di indo. dan bandingkan volume tradingnya dengan vip, masih kalah jauh. sehingga bid/ask spread di luno masih gede, dan pasarnya tidak selikuid di vip. belum lagi, pilihan koinnya amat terbatas. malas main di luno

For the few exchanges that I use, trading fees are calculated using the base currency (where in a currency pair C1/C2, C2 is the base currency). For example, for pairs BTC/USD, the fees both for buying and selling are denominated in USD. I read that Mt. Gox used to have fees in BTC. Are there other exchanges out there who are calculating fees not from the base currency?

ada thread officialnya luno indonesiakah di sini? saya cek sekilas tidak ada, mohon maaf kalo dobel.

saya cek di CMC, luno terdaftarnya hanya satu untuk semua negara. https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/luno/ di situ terdaftar volume trading BTC/IDR, BTC/MYR, dsb. tapi, kok gak ada volume untuk ETH misalnya ya?

maaf kalau bikin thread lagi tentang vip, soalnya thread yang ini sudah dikunci admin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2698662.140

kalau kita perhatikan, coinmarketcap.com (cmc) meng-exclude volume trading yang dilakukan tanpa fee. contoh: https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/zaif/ di situ ada keterangan ** Volume excluded - no trading fees.

tapi kalau kita lihat angka yang dilaporkan https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/bitcoin-indonesia/ vs yang dilaporkan vip sendiri di https://vip.bitcoin.co.id/market itu kok mirip ya (saat thread ini dibuat, sekitar $6jt atau sekitar Rp 80 miliar utk BTC/IDR. padahal dari angka sebesar ini harusnya banyak yang terjadi tanpa trading fee karena sifatnya market maker. atau angka di vip sudah mengexclude transaksi tanpa fee? ada yang tahu?

even ETH market is being paused now with message "investigating issue with deposits". i'm getting worried, i hope nothing bad will happen. am getting tired with scam after scam.

what do you mean "activities very bad". opera mini can handle many many tabs, plus it won't lose your tab if the app crashes. so at least in terms of tab management it's better than chrome, firefox...

sudah pernah dijawab gan, bitocto gak ada hubungan dengan octocoin.

mengenai beta testing, mungkin bisa menghubungi adminnya langsung.

to continue my own thread...

i've tried switching to UC browser (the mini and the normal version), also the Yandex browser (the mini and normal version).

all of them are more crappy and annoying than opera mini, being also ridden with ads but at the same time having serious bugs and lacking features. so i had to go back to opera.

aside from the infamous mt gox 2014 leak of trading data (one currently active mirror: http://cryptoanarchic.me/goxhax/ ), do any of you guys know of other trading data (crypto, forex, stock, other) which have been leaked or published voluntarily? preferred is invidual trader's trading data with a user ID to enable behavior analysis. but any kind of other data would interest me (intraday trading volume, intraday order book, withdrawals/deposits, etc).