Quote from: johntwo on December 10, 2017, 11:37:36 PM

Quote from: willieccd on December 10, 2017, 11:15:36 PM

Quote from: johntwo on December 10, 2017, 10:52:16 PM

I don't understand the negativity, though maybe I'm missing something. Do people think the dev is trying to steal a value-less coin by not using escrow?

will you buy something online without using escrow? wow

Quote from: johntwo on December 10, 2017, 10:52:16 PM

People are also complaining about the dev being allowed to reject swaps. This I think we just need to wait and see whether the devs abuse this power. We have no reason to think they will abuse it, so why not just wait and see whether they run the swap fairly? If you feel like they refuse to approve your swap unfairly, complain at that time.

wait and see? so you will only watch the swap, as it has max amount

For both your responses, the problem is you're assuming you're entitled to a swap. You have no inherent right to a swap. The dev is offering something in return for ESP2, but he has no obligation to offer you anything. The swap is a privilege he offers from the WISPR coin - it's like an airdrop for ESP2 holders - not a right built into the ESP2 coin.

Would I trade someone something worth $0.000000 dollars for something else worth $0.000000 dollars without using escrow, if I think the latter one has more potential value? Yes, absolutely. Because either I keep holding something useless (ESP2), or I get scammed out of it and I still hold something useless (nothing). But note that if you don't like the risk, you can just not make the swap. You have no right or entitlement to WISPR, so if you don't like the swap mechanic, then keep your ESP2. Also, if the dev scams a couple of people out of a few thousand ESP, we'll hear about it and can just ignore this coin later.

Similarly, the dev has every right to cap the swap. If the dev was running a new coin that had no swap and nothing to do with ESP2, would you complain that you're capped at 0 ESP2 to swap? No of course not, that'd be stupid. So the dev decides, he wants to offer a limited amount of WISPR to individual swappers, and he does that by capping the ESP2. This is no different than having an airdrop limit. You have no inherent right to convert your ESP2 to WISPR, so you have no inherent right to get ALL your ESP2 converted just because the dev is offering to convert SOME of it. Why does dev offering to swap some ESP2 require him to offer to swap all of it?

then why dont just call it an ICO that only accept ESP, not a swap

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