Quote from: audaciousbeing on November 25, 2017, 06:02:06 PM

From what I see in your earlier post, you claim to offer escrow service for an HYIP exactly because I want to know how you do it? An HYIP whose only motive is to scam innocent victims who are newbies and greedy, exploit that part and in 3 months or even less, they are no where to be found.

The escrow you provided, do you then distribute it to their victims or you gave them a review based on the amount they put so that people can trust them? Either way, you cannot provide escrow for an HYIP if you are not an HYIP yourself. You don't give what you don't have.

wow. there is so much assumption on your part here its a bit staggering. so bear with me ill address each sentence in turn.

Quote from: audaciousbeing on November 25, 2017, 06:02:06 PM

From what I see in your earlier post, you claim to offer escrow service for an HYIP exactly because I want to know how you do it?

I don't OFFER anything but the referral link, THE SITE chain group is the escrow.
they (CHAIN GROUP) receive a deposit minimum 15k USD from the platform wishing to list ON THEIR site (again chain groups).
After the site (chain group) has received the investment the platform (Trade Groups, let just say X-BOTS), must provide proof of actual profitable trade's. this trading data is not made public and chain group hold it for proof of effective trading as not to just let any one in the site to take peoples Money

Quote from: Chain Groups Requirements

Link to artical
If your Trade Group has been trading in the cryptocurrency markets and you have internal reporting, transaction history, please send it to us. For example, many exchanges allow exporting trading history to a CSV or XML file.

Tell us clear and in details about the development of your company. Specify your Trade Group members and give us links to their social network accounts.

The data provided will not be published. You decide what information to disclose at publishing your investment proposal. But the more you tell us about your company, the greater the chance of publishing your investment proposal.

If your business is not related to trading in the markets, also tell us about it in detail.

But do not tell us information that we cant check. For example, if you say, We have been successfully Litecoin mining since 2010! then you must also provide references to independent sources for us to verify this information.

We do not require proof that your company has been successfully working for a long time. But if you make such statements, that are impossible to confirm, they will more likely work against you.

If at checking the facts, we find out that you are trying to mislead the analytics Group somehow, then you will definitely be denied service.

SECONDARY ANSWER in a different response
LINK HERE

First of all, do not promise rates that you cant pay to Investors.

You must have your own internal trading statistics. If you know that your daily average profit (including negative results) was 3% in the last 180 days, promise investors no more than a half, i.e. 1.5% per day.

If your results are less that 2% per a day, then do not promise more than 1% per day.

Even though the Service allows making payments in the range of 0.1 to 10% per day, we think that its better to promise from 0.1 to 5% of return every day. Then you will not depend on your average index and can pay interest rate that you actually earned.

If you made a number of unsuccessful transactions, you can pay 0.1% per day for several days in a row. If you make good money, you can pay your maximum of 5% per day.

But if you promise investors, for example 2-3% per day, you cant pay less than 2% of return every day. This may cause bankruptcy. Of course, a proposal of stable 2-3% return per day is more attractive to Investors than 0.1-5%.

In the long term, if Investors see that your Trade Group has been working for a long time and pays 2-3% in the 0.1-5% range, you will have plenty of new deposits. At the same time, if you already have enough deposits, you can reduce their number by simply reducing return rates (for example, you can start to pay only 1% per day at any time).

The main rule is if you are not fully confident in your abilities, set the minimum return rate in the range. That is, 0.1% per day.

Quote from: audaciousbeing on November 25, 2017, 06:02:06 PM

An HYIP whose only motive is to scam innocent victims who are newbies and greedy, exploit that part and in 3 months or even less, they are no where to be found.

ill address this in two parts

"An HYIP whose only motive is to scam innocent victims who are newbies and greedy"

HYIP while i admit SOME/MOST ALL are scam's you would have made 35X your investment just putting you Money in the top 5 coins 6 month ago. Groups that trade and invest in crypto SOLELY offer a MODEST (at best) return in dolor value. SO the fact some one can invest and make 100X their money in eth is completely legitimate but you say 2% a day is not? your logic falls on its face there so ill stop and consider this part answered

"exploit that part and in 3 months or even less, they are no where to be found."
chain group has been around 9 month's. I don't see the relevance of the statement as you didn't even bother to check it's up time yourself.

Quote from: audaciousbeing on November 25, 2017, 06:02:06 PM

The escrow you provided, do you then distribute it to their victims or you gave them a review based on the amount they put so that people can trust them?

One, I don't provide anything, again, but my link and review.
Two, "do you then distribute it to their victim" I'm sorry but maybe you can reword this to something intelligible?

do you mean do new investors pay off existing ones?

well that's a great question, and chain groups response to some platforms question of the same this can be found here.

Quote from: Chain groups response to using escrowed funds, or new investor funds to pay off debt owed to earlier investors

LINK HERE
Perhaps, in some situation, this would help. If you really need a small amount of money to make sure all debts and it is an exception. But generally this scheme reminds a financial pyramid. Therefore, we do not allow paying debts on return with new deposits.[/u] If a Trade Group has a negative balance, accepting new deposits is stopped.

Quote from: audaciousbeing on November 25, 2017, 06:02:06 PM

Either way, you cannot provide escrow for an HYIP if you are not an HYIP yourself.

So you can have HYIP if you do it yourself? But cant have a 3rd party who has a platform they wish to grow with investor resources? I'm sorry but did you write a oxymoron just to make a illogical argument to be passive aggressive with a no win situation?
as it is a oxymoron ill consider this rhetorical in which case you answered it already

obviously this platform has a escrow for HYIP (or what you consider HYIP cause buying any top 5 crypto would have netted you a many fold increase. but Crypto is not hyip? your sounding less credible with this statement.

But i know that wont satisfy you so ill give a example. Berkshire Hathaway, this is considered a HYIP, completely legitimate. ODD, now the platforms being offered cant off the same returns as crypto but offer high return at a fraction of CRYPTO's returns. And that's the market they trade in, Crypto. They offer a FRACTION of the growth so in the LARGE picture the platform is making insane amounts of money and offering a fraction to the investors. IS IT A GOOD INVESTMENT, yes and no, but mainly no.

Yes in the sense your protected from down turn as your not receiving and holding COIN but USD. so your covered in that regard.
No as a simple buy and hold would have NETTED YOU on average (top 5 6month hold) 33 times your original investment.

so its really about weighing the risk to reward and spreading what risk your willing to take.
it is good in the sense the platform (chain group) handles all this on your behalf.

Quote from: audaciousbeing on November 25, 2017, 06:02:06 PM

You don't give what you don't have.

well that's the EXACT POINT they dont have enough capital to make the PROFIT the trade groups wants to make, they make more profits by trading extra equity.
thank you for seeing the big picture, but then why did you leave the rest? Huh

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