Quote from: lostinheaven on October 04, 2017, 12:28:44 AM

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Quote from: lostinheaven on October 02, 2017, 07:20:33 AM

Quote from: Hhampuz on October 01, 2017, 08:04:16 AM

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Quote from: Hhampuz on September 30, 2017, 07:03:37 PM

Quote from: btcbetcc on September 30, 2017, 06:59:37 PM

As we understood, there is a lot of competition of gambling services. This is confirmed by the previous two posts from Hhampuz and lostinheaven. At first, unproved suspicions were brought against the administration of the btcbet.cc. Then allegedly an investigation. And now a hacker attack. Business is business, we are not offended.

For all our valued users, we are again ONLINE, we have changed the DNS, so there may be some delays.
We are ready to reflect any attacks as much as possible, some bets might be canceled or we will be unavailable for a while, but we are alive, your coins and our database are in the safe place.

Competition? You said yourselves that you are among the first to do this with BTC, no? So how would I be a competitor? If you can not even handle a simple question regarding suspicious things going on at your website that's not really at my fault. I have been around these forums for a while and I have built a reputation and as such I have to try and uphold some standards and point out wrongdoing if I see any.

It's not the first time I see you are trying to tarnish reputation of competitors while you are advertising the casino in your signature.

Please do point out where I have tried to tarnish the reputation of another gambling site without real points being made? Otherwise you are just talking out of your ass. And since btcbet is a completely different thing compared to fortunejack it's not really a competitor. Unless you are clueless when it comes to everything here in the world, lol.

Hhampuz,

In the beginning, I was really thinking of this one as an opportunity to invest BTC in bo, but as I started to analyze things up made me really doubt, unfortunately, cause there aren't many serious brokers accepting BTC .....

Their just bullshit talking to keep their zero profit taking bets "business" ...lol

I'm glad I took my money out cause no one will make money expect them...
their funny answering simple questions..they won't cause they know that they are involved in short-term profit... and they talk about hack attack really funny, It's the false victim speech Cheesy

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I'm sorry about the people that still put the money on their fake, I don't want to say it is a scam, cause I could withdraw my money...But till when?

That's why I contact you as a reputable member cause me as newbie, and nothing to do with any other sites, no one would give importance....

Hhampuz, it's so easy just look at the bets and timing, of course, needs to invest some time...I'm a BO and forex investor and I like to watch the markets even I don't put money on it...

Carefull guys, this one is a red flag Huh

hmm... have they run with someone's money?
I'm not sure what is going on between you guys,but hacks and DDOS attacks are pretty much a norm in this business
only the strongest survive,just look at the dice sites:even the top ones like primedice and bitsler are being attacked and taken offline for some period of time
so I would give them a benefit of the doubt,if you have any scam accusations against them,you can post in the scam accusation section
but just saying that they are playing the false victim card without any proof,it doesn't sound convincing,mate

1rst I don't promote any gambling sites...so no competition.

2nd I said I could withdraw my money and as I said they don't manipulate the price, they can't make you lose a bet, like a casino... but the winnings can be manipulated in favor of the operator, spread the winning profit with fake users and besides of that the %5 profit in every winning bet. The odds are very favorable to the house.

3rd I didn't say Victim card but victim speech when they posted:
"As we understood, there is a lot of competition for gambling services. This is confirmed by the previous two posts from Hhampuz and lostinheaven.
At first, unproved suspicions were brought against the administration of the btcbet.cc. Then allegedly an investigation. And now a hacker attack. Business is business, we are not offended". Never feel sorry for this guys... of course, we can't prove they are in control of everything, even we don't who was betting, even can be a false user... so it is impossible in this manners. One thing I'm sure, they are here to make money from us and from one day to another they will be gone with their profits, this is my own experience. They appear as humble disciples of the good, manipulate with their false good intentions and after disappear as Judas with no explanations. Don't go easy on them

4rth I have the right to ask questions if I put my money on their business and 2 questions that started to make me think twice was:

When a user Logan12321 asked" btcbetcc do you also participate in betting sometimes?"
and after user buwaytress posted "Sounds like a good model for the operators, since there's no way for players to game the system (what do you do, bet against yourself? Still lose out on commissions).
I do want to clarify one item here though: You say that a 0.01 withdrawal will only result in 0.009 after site commission. This is a 10% commission... in addition to 5% of winnings. Sounds slightly exorbitant for me.
A better way would be to just charge a flat commission on winnings, with the entire winning amount sent back to the person who won immediately. You still make profit like this, no?"

As this questions never were addressed and after being analyzing the bets coming in for few a hours a day...I just thought and if they make opposite bets in every bet, the losing ones don't count cause they are the operator the winnings one can spread the profit into different players and they are there. I'm not saying they are doing it and it is impossible to prove it, it is one of the scenarios that anyone should pose before putting the money in.

As I see, at the moment, things can change and improve, this is a high risk, high fees no profit or just a few pennies and as they referred bots coming in a system based on opposite bets. Unfortunately, this is not for me but in the beginning, I was excited about it. I like the site design simple and very functional.

I hope I could clarify better my point and I wish good luck on this one Roll Eyes

Ps: This is a bet where you can earn a good profit with a small amount but high probability to lose only happens in extreme conditions not often; to catch this one you have to be a robot who bets in every bet and in the opposite, and as someone said and I agree cause I tested, it is not profitable to bet on both sides, cause you will have to do it in every bet to catch these ones, so my question who was the user who bet down?In my opinion a visionary or the operator.

ID Period Base price Last price Count Amounts
17606| 01:3001:50 |4301.00000004 ↓↓4288.00000001| 5 ↑4 ↓1 |0.015 ↑0.013 ↓0.002| User bet down 0.002, and won 0.01435

@veleten when I posted my questions I invested small to test and after I did the hard job of analyzing the bets patterns and repetitions, what time they come in and for a period of time without investing.
My questions aren't based on what someone else says only or what it seems, I invite you to the same, play the game, analyze and then post your 2nd opinion about it, probably can be different from mine and I accept it. I'm not looking for perfection but for excellence

I can be a newbie here but don't discredit just because of that...

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