Quote from: BitBaydev on February 11, 2015, 12:27:18 PM

Quote from: gnarl on February 11, 2015, 09:50:00 AM

Before you recommend this to anyone...

A fresh install does not sync.
There is no troubleshooting faq.
There are no instructions for adding nodes in main thread, or on the website.
It only attempts to contact 2 hardcoded ip addresses, one is unpingable, and the other times out..

There are 2 different versions of the 'current official release' available for download.
One installs a bitbay.conf with no nodes, and one does not even create it.

The source code linked to is 3 months old, there are no reported issues or community involvement.
https://github.com/bitbayteam/bitbay

The official bitcointalk threads link to this bitbaysetup.exe, and Virustotal says its sketchy...
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/506bc9dee4bac3f78b91e305f8de1789fbe9ead57eb96be6172bdce9f91bb031/analysis/

The official bitbay.org's link to this bitbaysetup.exe, that is a different size, and Virustotal says its sketchy...
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/2aeadbb0d74e80de70b0216ccb6fd65fa4bdf3855b43a64a8e9d5b48bc1256d8/analysis/1423640551/

All the new users are doing this now...

So,
When will the real open source link be available?
Will users be able to report problems and bugs?
Will a hash+pgp signature be posted with the next build to ensure the download is the same release code\build?
When will a real official/professional release that works from a fresh install be available?

Hey gnarl thanks for this, all of your concerns are genuine and it gives us a chance to explain what has been going on with Bay of late.

As you all know this project has not had smoothest of launches, and when the new team got involved the project was quite literally in shambles. There was no control of Bay's own media channels, partial control of some of the sites, a bunch of clients released some of which there was no way of knowing were even trustworthy, and a host of other problems not the least of which is the removal of about 1000btc from the project by it's initial collaborators.

Since then we have set up new official twitter (@bitbaytalk), new facebook page, and have a server ready on bitbay.market which is where the new official site will be hosted.

On the software front David is working on the markets currently, but we felt the need to release new QT wallets while work on the advanced client continues, in beta. This allows people just wanting to stake or send/receive a stable, easy client, right now. And we do literally mean right now. We're leaking today's release here first. It is the new Windows QT BitBay client, which we've tested to work fine all the way from XP to 8.1. You can get it on

http://bit.ly/bitbaywin

This is a short link that points to a file hosted on bitbay.market, which is, until further notice where all our releases will come from. So, Windows users, please DO NOT USE anything that isn't an official release posted by us either on here or through official channels, starting with today's release.

The other piece of news relating to this is that we have setup a base node network of 3 VPS machines, which will be always-on entry points to the network and able to serve the blockchain in a fast and effective fashion to new users even in the early days. They are:

US (New York) Node - 104.236.208.150
Euro (Amsterdam) Node - 188.166.39.223
Asia (Singapore) Node - 128.199.118.67

These nodes are now hardcoded into the new client so connecting should not be a problem. Do let us know if you have any trouble of course!

About GitHub, we'll be putting the whole thing up shortly, users will absolutely be able to report problems and bugs, signatures will be in the releases, and as for your last question, answered above

Next up is Mac and Linux QTs, and after that Android will come as well. Now time to update the OP, soon after that will come the new site on bitbay.market.

A community is coming together on the BitBay Slack, which is really a great tool and we encourage anyone wanting to get involved to join us.

Let us know if you have any questions, we're here!

Hi Bitbaydev,

Well at least you respond like you care, but I mostly see hand-waving and explanations. No change in procedure.
Its too bad, this looks really cool and promising, but there are just too many GIANT RED FLAGS.

You just "released" another build as a reaction to one reported issue.
You built and released it in less than 7 hours since I posted, there is no way it was tested thoroughly.
You put it behind bitly, so no one knows where it is coming from, and Bitbay.market is an abandoned blog...

There is no hash or proof it is even bitbay code, and no one is standing by it and saying they built it.
This build is a different size , again. (first 48mb, then 45mb, now 25mb... what was removed?)
Chrome wont download it. Virustotal results have changed, now warnings come from clam-av heuristics.
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/60fcc150cf64ed90660366ff8f5dcf85500d81e19622bb90f6ca859e8896fade/analysis/
The details show it was built on a different system than the last 2, who built this one?

Come on... This is not how you release quality software. Especially software that holds money.
Its releases like this that kill coins. I have seen it happen multiple times here. It ticks me off...
I would like to see this go mainstream, it has a great foundation, but sketchy stuff like this can kill it.

If you guys need help testing and releasing a product professionally, I can be bribed with beer and bitcoins.
Seriously. Fresh install testing, multiple os's, new user experience, beta testing, secure release procedures...
My problem reporting and recommendations are much more pleasant if I am properly beered and bribed.

Either way, I will wait until its available on github and released with someones reputation backing it.
Twitter that when it happens!
Good luck.

gnarl

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