Quote from: talonpower on December 28, 2017, 10:33:26 PM

Quote from: captainX on December 28, 2017, 11:58:25 AM

Quote from: jhhansen on December 27, 2017, 08:41:56 PM

Quote from: cryptocoynz on December 27, 2017, 08:01:35 PM

Quote from: jhhansen on December 27, 2017, 11:00:52 AM

Quote from: GREEDYJOHN on December 27, 2017, 05:53:53 AM

Quote from: cryptocoynz on December 26, 2017, 10:42:29 PM

Quote from: ThunderousDreamer on December 22, 2017, 06:59:50 AM

Quote from: dirruk on December 22, 2017, 04:01:18 AM

by implementing the fmn before block 80 k you broke your promise and stole b3 from the stakers dont try to spin it your way this isnt

discord where you can ban people who dont agree with you your team scammed those coins just be a man and admit the obvious

Changing the roadmap to address potential disastrous previously unseen consequences is very far away from 'stole b3 from stakers'. Please look past your own immediate interest and take a high level viewpoint. The changes that were made drastically reduced the inflation of the coin, something that was much needed or the project would have ended up with a total supply multiple times larger than what we are now. The B3 team made the right choice that was needed to preserve the long term health of the project and therefore the investment of all investors.

If the roadmap was ever to be changed, that should have been announced well in advance and done properly. What the investors experienced was a sudden and unannounced change in the roadmap.That is simply not acceptable, but worse.. the team lied that they were in negotiations with the #1 wallet... you can't just freeze someones coins no matter how many they have because you created a system that allowed that to happen. If someone with a lot of coins agreed to have some of their coins frozen which what was told to us by 'ethical' Jamie Woodruff... that would be okay but we know now from Ergo that Jamie and team had no idea who the #1 wallet was.. they kept changing their mind who that person was, with nothing negotiated.. but they went ahead and froze their coins anyways.. that does amount to stealing.. and it was the conclusion the now 'banned from discord for asking questions' CEO of Cryptopia came to, resulting in the Cryptopia delisting of the coin.

When you are managing millions of dollars you have to act and behave responsibly, this isn't kids play, you can't just change the roadmap.. release new wallets, or freeze peoples coins without informing investors well in advance.

And as for unseen consequences.. unless you had your eyes wide shut in discord.. anyone could see this 10,000% interest was going to create huge coin inflation... it was after all by design.. the same with the #1 wallet.. it was so clear the largest wallet was compounding such that obviously they would eventually have the majority share of the coins. There was ample time to either announce a roadmap change weeks in advance or simply wait as Greedy John rightly said until the high staking period was over.

The high staking could have simply continued and the kB3 implemented at block 82k and you would have had a stable coin and none of the drama.
Changing the roadmap... in the end, is what created disastrous previously unforseen consequences..

YES, I AGREE.

We would still have a STABLE coin, with market cap exceeding $50m, if the code was just left alone.

There was no stable coin late in the 10 000% period. The wallets got so large that they caused mini forks all the time, and something had to be done.

No, you are mixing up events. Until the introduction of a new wallet that attempted (but failed) to gain consensus for an upgrade to launch the fundamental nodes before block 82k, the blockchain was stable and all exchanges were operating. Of course coin inflation was causing a price decrease over time and had been for weeks, but this was expected and by design. For many who bought in early the price decrease was offset by the massive gains due to the coin interest.

All the blockchain forks began with the introduction of the new wallets often without any notice whatsoever, leaving people running the wrong wallet version, losing coins, and with exchanges going down (still down in some cases).

The original code itself was written well and it was the recent mucking around just before block 80k that started all this mess. Its incredible the team continues to deny their mistakes. At least a team that admits failure can learn from its mistakes, can be honest with their investors, and can then move forward. That does not seem to be the case here and that does not bode well for the future of this coin.

I would suggest the team get another spokesperson like Kdog to speak here. She at least has integrity.

You can question my integrity, however if I have made a statement which has errors, I am willing to correct it shown the proof of it.

That the mini forks happened before the release of the new wallets, is a fact. The start of the mini forks was not caused by those wallets, it is true that they did nothing to prevent it still happening, but they were not the cause.

There are folks frustrated that B3 is not moving up in price and issues concerning the new wallet update has arisen, what is happening with CE updating the the wallets its been days. Also going back to those that claim the b3 team are scamming, please feel free to provide evidence for these baseless accusations, I can see an effort being made in by the team to resolve issues with the coin, you look at b3 discord its one of the most interactive communities i have seen, so to be bashing the coin and showing your frustrations on here that is a sign of weakness, these types of investment come with major risk attached to it especially investing in the last month or so, but the reward will be immense, im sure of it too much work is being done behind the scenes I can tell, so for those of you showing your frustrations on here simple thing is to sell, sell your coins at a loss and move on, but for those of you that still have hope hold everything, we will see the greatest rise ever in 2018 that I am sure of god willing.

have you read the "baseless" claims? the majority of who have posted have put out FACTS and then come the idea it was a scam...

am i saying its a scam? No not yet.... but the facts are the facts and if they do not of did not want all this FUD or accusations they should have came here or discord right away and try to help but instead they went into hiding and banning ppl that is what set off the panic.

after thing got screwed up the 1st day or so... roll the code back and get back where it was working, and test on the testnet

if they dont want to be labeled scammers then

1.) show us where all the 60% of our staking went b4 the 80,000 Block
2.) show us these mini forks
3.) why some heads up was NOT given about the FMN starting early... because it would have gave ppl to make a decision to stay with the coin or not.

cause whether you like it or not the scenario was basically hey we are going to freeze this wallet #1 , start the FMN like 2000 blocks ahead. and really nothing you can do about it.

there was 2 staking pools holding prob upwards to 50-60% of the remaining coins. so those were put on lock down.... then cryptopia problems, more coins locked down.... Coinexchang.io more coins locked down... yobit i think was not working b4 this

prob 60% or more of total supply was LOCKED down... hardly anyone could do a damn thing about it... hardly anyone was allowed to make a decision because they could NOT move their coins.

did they think "hey we will do FMN early and everyone will be so thrilled and forget we are seizing the #1 wallets coins" ?

whatever the case may be it backfired.

everyone tosses out risk... the risk to us was NOT present till the team made these sudden what look liked a non calculated decisions without informing the community they claim they cherish so highly

and sorry the bans were 80% ppl upset about losing their money and rightfully so... if you were not screaming lambos and the moon... every thing else was met by bannnnn fuuudddd... leading the team to ban, because they thought you were causing problems more so by all the ppl kissing ass trying to be helpers etc blowing the comments out of context and proportion that the mods and helpers banned cause they thought you were causing issues when in reality, ppl just wanting some info

if you can discount any of that, then i ask you PLEASE show us facts to the contrary

i agree we now let them sort it out, i am for one HOPE they do i have a lot invested... but do not come here and say what they did was prob not the best of decisions.... you mess with ppl's money it will NEVER turn out good till it is fixed...

again i have like 175 + million coins i hope it does get back up to 1, 10 or even 25 SATS in next few months.

you Sr, just spoke for me ! well said . i got banned because i lost my money with this coin and i would frequently warn people regarding this pyramid coin yet if you didnt kissed their assess crying about how you are going to buy a lambo when the coin moon they would calcell you out and say offence words. Thats a very low ball move by the community and the developers getting people hyped by give the so call AIR DROPS THAT ARE WORTH NOTHING NOW. So many other things that i tried to warn people in discord are now becoming reality ... to that i say AMEN AND A BIG HAHAHA !!!!!

otaner142

Posts

Merits