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Someone posted this on bitcointalk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1134060.0), I have never heard of them before and it looks like they haven't been around that long from the twitter account.

I also do not see any good company info

They claim to be selling sfards miners http://www.itop-corp.com/

Looks fishy to me

I suspect not to be real they show stock: Units in Stock:100

If they had some I don't see that site having backing for 100 units. Were talking around 100k usd or more... i don't see it. Also the site is weird as far as variety of items.

Hi, thanks for your feedback. You're right that 100 items was incorrect and you're right about the Twitter and website being quite new. We started on Taobao and Alibaba then later eBay and have had a lot of growth in the past few years so have decided to test the water in the rest of the world. We're starting up independently where we have more control of our products and services and more direct dealings with our customers to offer a more complete service. Case in point - The Silverfish miners had a problem when the authentication server went down. Through Taobao/eBay, there wasn't much we could do (they like to stop sellers and buyers from communicating directly) and we had to put a message into the store page to our customers and hope they got it to let them know about an updated firmware.

Going independent allows us to communicate directly with customers and avoid these problems going forwards.

The Sfards miner: http://www.itopshop.net/sfards-28nm-sha256-and-scrypt-dual-miner-p-243.html (we have 2 with more coming very soon)

The stock levels on the website aren't all correct right now as we only have a small team transferring everything from Taobao and Alibaba to the new website but if it's on the site you can at least know that it's in stock. We're working hard to get everything up to date and added. You'll see our product catalog grow as we get more things online.

Here's the recent thread I started to introduce the company: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1134060

If you notice any other problems or have any questions then please feel free to contact me by PM here or email (see my profile). As I said before, we're committed to excellent customer service and we have a proven record on Taobao, Alibaba and eBay. It'll take some time to get that reputation after a fresh start so of course we'll be trying even harder.

you are new people are tired of new guys coming here and trying to rob people. Myself and a few others are trusted and don't rip people off .

If you want to proof yourself send one to me and when I get it I will pay you. Now I know you are UK based. and do not expect you to send one to me. But find a trusted UK guy we know and send him one trust him and he can say you did that.

Other then doing something like that people will just not want to buy from you.

The people behind iTop are not new. Everyone is tired of getting ripped off. However to be frank I am not very familiar with any major scandals regarding ASICs but I don't doubt there have not been any.

Back in Oct 2012 I started sending through Paypal money to Butterfly Labs because I believed in them. I pre-ordered so many Jalapeños that I started converting them into Singles. I trusted Brian, Jody and Josh. This went on for a year before I realized I was burnt. Do you know who's fault that was? Mine, it was my fault. The writing was on the wall but I continued with an incurable optimism until I finally realized it was over.

However this did not make me start harassing legitimate sellers of ASICs or new companies of being bad actors. I was grateful to see more businesses selling ASICs because I knew then that we would eventually obtain some. Most of us started our ASIC mining with the USB's from Friedcat. When I needed a large USB Hub I went to one of the iTop owners that was just selling them on eBay back then and he got it to me fast. Thats how long this team has been around. The iTop Corporate brand is just the name of their new Business which they had to jump through a lot of hoops to get rolling. I think they even had to register their logo image.

I want to see these guys at iTop do well. Once they build up a much bigger base we will see all kinds of cool stuff. They are big into the Drones now but I am hoping to see some killer deals on 3D printers, Solar Generators, and more mining equipment and ways to save save energy while still being able to compete as an independent home miner.

Let me try to get a hold of a friend of mine on the East Coast and ask him to comment here in regards to these peoples character and trustworthiness. Plus a friend of mine in the UK that runs some NOMP pools because he bought like nearly a dozen in one shot of those Silverfish LTC Miners from them through the old iTop ebay store back in 'May 2015' I believe. These peoples credibility needs to be established immediately before any accusations based on assumptions.

Because everyone these days is so busy and if that means I am not able to get anyone here to back up what I am saying. I recommend you look at this at face value. If the risk if far greater than the reward then just don't do it. However please wait until there is actually proof that they are acting in bad faith before pounding them on here with FUD.

I recommend reaching out to iTop and doing Business with them. You will not regret it. These guys are well financed, connected and have this down to a science. They are available around the clock. You will appreciate the way they do business. I know I do and I have yet to have heard any complaints but only praise from the numerous friends I have sent to them over the last few years.

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