Quote from: SebastianJu on January 17, 2018, 11:34:21 PM

Quote from: akwtemp on January 17, 2018, 02:51:03 PM

hello

[premise]
- the other account was blocked (one of the forum db hacks caused a lot of issues...)
- apologies for the delayed update

[recap/update]
- nobody ever touched the funds. they were sent to the company.
- company started misbehaving
- we started suing them (ndas, and so on..)
- several jurisdictions and laws apply
- company went bankrupt
- customers have the lowest priority among all the creditors
- remaining assets of the company went sold (including equipment, stock, parts,...)
- they were not labeled, in any way, they went sold in "some sort of" auction
- other creditors had more priority, we appealed, we lost
- actions still continue on more fronts
- among the rest, the judges decided to review one of the closed cases
- they will update about the above in 2018 or hopefully in several months, beyond possibly having updates on other fronts too
- they said that eventually, in case of "success", some sort of refund would apply
- as there will be further substantial or final updates, they will be reported here in the forum somehow

[where we are]
- please identify the correct subject responsible of this whole situation: the company
- we, us, the escrow, have no responsibility at all over their behavior, actions and so on
- the whole thing is publicly known, we are not an exception, search the web please
- someone is still paying for and following all the legal actions and such, as always...
- nobody of you helped, in any way, never
- obviously, whatever success we would eventually achieve will be shared among all here, less the legal expenses

[considerations]
- we are not in the "far west" but in some developed country, laws apply...
- personal direct or indirect harassments, accuses, damage or whatever else not appropriate or polite will not be tolerated anymore
- privacy in europe is something extremely important, as well as for other rights and so on...
- we, me and the escrow have no personal responsibility at all over what happened with the company
- nobody will break the laws, as always, and nobody will damage itself more than already done
- please eventually select the correct subject/s in your communications and content
- all the communications not compliant with the laws will be at least ignored
- thanks

wishing to you all the best of luck, take care!

I can confirm that this user is the new account of the real akw that started the groupbuy back then. I'm in contact with the original user through his email address we wrote through.

If all is true and we were scamed by Knc, you, SebastianJu should give us the knc payment txid so we can take loyal action.
They stealed us more than 80 btc, it's not a joke.
If you can't show us the payment txid I will think both, akw and sebju, are same person and you stealed all.

plok

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