Quote from: cellard on July 21, 2018, 04:51:46 PM

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Quote from: cellard on July 21, 2018, 12:14:08 AM

there's no free ride, you pay a price with some % of centralization due node resource going up + more orphans

Nop. You are wrong. Centralization is not a ghost to be summoned by some spells, any claim against an improvement proposal should be analytically provable, no room for intuitions. I have refuted any such claim regarding centralization consequences of a moderate block size increase up-thread and as of block time decrease (my alternative suggestion) it has a considerable positive decentralization impact (actually in orders of magnitude).

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It's not even relevant. No matter if one thinks a bigger blocksize and blocktime wouldn't centralize (I disagree,..) but anyway, the main point is, you just can't do it, how are you going reach hard fork consensus? how are you going to get all the whales on board so when the fork happens they do not dump on you, crashing the price, forcing miners to stop mining your fork? Betting against the original Bitcoin is always going to have an unreasonable amount of risk to do so, you are always going to on the losing side supporting a fork, unless you manage to make everyone and their money to agree with you somehow.

Aren't you and @Doomad same persons? He is used to bring forward this argument whenever it comes to a change proposal.

I understand your concerns, bitcoin is no more an experimental project and everything is political here, I truly understand but I don't care. I'm sure at the end of the day we are left with nothing less or more than the truth not lies and the 'right' not wrongs.

Any for the problem of evolution and consensus around it, I have some ideas, for now it is better to remain focused on 'the right' and 'the true', imo.

Even if you were to be right, you would need to argue this with the people that have the most influence in the ecosystem: big merchants, big miners, big whales, show them the proof, and see what the feedback is. Perhaps starting by going into MP's group chat on IRC (see Anonymint posts). Go there and show your technological arguments about why it's a good idea and post the log there.

Do the same on any other relevant place and post results. You need to be debating this in these places, besides in here, otherwise it just stay as what you think it's a good idea, but not ever implemented.

I agree with that ... instead just act as politicians who are already committed to their party, views and believes .. we should act more as a scientist ready to review any hypothesis if new data is coming out ...

Regards to scaling, in the real world is very hard to predict how a certain type of network will scale because so many variables ( when we add economical, human decision, etc) ..
So I decided to look at simulators ...
There are so many types of networking simulators ... virtualization, emulators, hybrid systems, discrete event, etc ... in my point of view if we need run a very large simulation in order to et data to support an argument or hypothesis .. I would choose discrete event simulation ...

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