Quote from: VaporX on February 28, 2014, 09:19:34 AM

CleverMining has definitely reduced rejects considerably but I still find it a major issue. I have to dial back clockspeed on my cards (lowering my hash a little) and even then I routinely average 5 - 10%. This is not something I`ve ever experienced mining elsewhere, whether mining currency or in another multipool. I have just switched from CleverMining to another multipool to get some stats to make a decent compqarison, however for the moment I can`t make a decent comparison other than to say the earnings rates appear similar with the edge going to the new pool.

One HUGE PLUS for CleverMining which is worthy of mention is how accessible and approchable CleverMining is. In the form of Terk, CleverMining has an easily accessible, eminently approachable internet presence providing updates and feedback on a daily basis. Terk is regularly visible and responsive on IRC and often deals with potentially awkward questions with great tact and diplomacy. For this he should be congratulated wholeheartedly. Other pools would do well to note this critical facet of the operation and duplicate it.

Anyway to sum up, whilst rejects is not the be all and end all of mining and earnings is the critical measure of success, where earnings are measured in BTC per Mh/s per day, to lost a constant portion of that Mh/s per day is factor people are rightly considering. Of course individual mileage may vary and as always it is down to the individual to make their own decisions. However I just wanted to add my perspective to the mix.

Can I follow up on this with a query to the experts ??

Am I correct in thinking that CleverMining on the BTC/Mh/Day measure uses the *accepted*, rather than the total submitted shares to give the specific profit number? If that is the case, then comparing this measure on something like poolpicker is going to artificially inflate the "profitability" of the this pool over others, since the reject rate is noticeably (but understandably) higher at CleverMining, we should really be comparing on a pure miner hash rate measure (assuming a given rig). Fundamentally, profit is how much BTC you get for how much hash you throw out for a given mining setup to a given pool. Rejects come from poor miner setup (nothing to do with the pool) and the coin being mined (nothing to do with the pool either). BUT rejects are still important if >few percent and if the reject level differs between pools then pool to pool comparisons on money/accepted is not the full picture.

I am running / have run on Middlecoin, HashCows, wafflePool in the past, and enough to worry about profitability. Want to try CleverMining once the eu server arrives (my ping is a bit to high (plus the reject issue) to make me leave bleed off some rigs from WafflePool at the mo)

WafflePool have a super low reject level, and a solid eu server, but they mine bigger coins, but the OP suggests changes to hit sub 20 diff coins, so hanging in there for now. CleverMining *seem* to have the really smart coinswitcher/trader and report a good BTC/Mh/day BUT is it really measurably better (10% say) than any other auto-trading pool for X Mh/s of hash resource Huh

My gut feeling is there isn't that much in it at the end of the day (its all factored in etc..), and mostly we are just better off having worthy competitors to middlecoin and have operators that are technically smart people, put the hours in, stay in touch, and make mining a collaborative activity rather than a bitch-fest. Thank god for that.

Thoughts anybody ?

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