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Clever rocks ;-)
my 3,4 mhs brings 30% more on cleverminig
Middlecoin is out

how much are your rejects on Clever just curios , the only reason I moved from clever was rejects were 30% 18% at its lowest and this was after he announced he fixed the reject problem.

Waffle is paying just on average 0.1+ per MH atm and rejects are low as HELL ... SO I have made 3 failovers 2 at waffle and the 3rd a clever just incase waffle blows up.

Is clever really a better option to waffle

Think about it this way. Does it matter how many rejects you get if you're getting paid more?

Clever is mining some aggressively fast coins. More profitable but reject rates get amplified by very fast coins. The reject rates are part of the profitability equation.

Waffle is a conservative pool. It has low reject rates because they DON'T mine the most profitable fast coins.

So in a race between a Bugatti Veyron and a Toyota Prius, do you choose the Prius because it's not as loud? For me, I don't care if it's louder or more finicky or takes more gas. If it's a race, I take the Veyron.

So at the end of the day, what's more important to you, the reject rate on your screen or the payout to your wallet?

Definitely the payout, but waffle does mine many coins, check out their range... and the fee is 1% so does it equal out would you think? i wouldnt say waffle is like a prius their payouts are up there with the best of them.... maybe some days a fraction less just as clever is also fraction less at times (according to peoples comparisons). atm I think waffle & clever are pretty even in profit dont you think.??

Or tel me do you think clever is out and away ahead of waffle? if so ill switch in a heart beat, have you really compared waffle for a full 24 hrs?

I've evaluated Waffle 3 times since they came out a few days at a time (Evals less than 3 days don't give accurate results due to immature and unexchanged can take a few days to switch over).

Waffle mines a lot of coins yes, but none of them are really low difficulty and fast. Clever expressly states that they mine fast coins on their thread.

Keep in mind that Waffle currently has more regional servers, lower overall rejects and no real server and code issues recently. Clever has had a ton of problems with core code (now fixed) and have only one US west coast server (more to come). And yet they are somewhat even (with Clever taking the lead in the last week) despite all of Clever's issues. So... With that in mind and once all issues are fixed and new servers are in place, which one do you think will perform better?

One thing you fail to mention in your post is that if the rejects are much greater on clever than waffle and the payouts per MH are fairly similar, your payout will be greater on waffle 100% of the time simply for the following reason: the accepted hashrate will be higher on waffle than on clever. These calculations all are based on accepted hashrate in MH.

I got 36% reject rates on clever and still mined 0.01 / mh

What are you basing your hashrate on? What's displayed on CGMiner or what the pool actually reports. If it's what the pool reports, Waffle will destroy Clever because of the rejects issue. Waffle will simply show a much higher hashrate.

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