Quote from: garyn on August 23, 2019, 05:30:36 PM

Quote from: farraddy on August 23, 2019, 03:51:28 PM

If you look at things more soberly that the project can be seen as an investment in running the business treatment of dogs. In my opinion, the victory over cancer is still very far away.

Yes it is a good investment when you look at treating dogs with cancer BUT only if the treatment works.

So... I am going to make an effort to be as detailed as possible to show you how the treatment works. It is proprietary but I can explain quite a bit.

Here we go: All cells have what are called MDR protein pumps. Think of them like a like a straw and when a cell senses something wrong entering the cell, the MDR's will basically pump it out.

One of those drugs that cells reject with the MDR protein pumps are chemotherapy drugs. That is why with normal Chemotherapy treatment, they use such large doses of Chemotherapy drugs to try and kill the cell. Because as the chemo is entering the cell, the MDR pump is getting it out of the cell. So if they use large doses of the chemotherapy drug, some hopefully will stay in the cancer cells and kill the cancer. Hopefully! That is also why patients have terrible side effects. Because of these large doses of the chemo patients can make the patient nauseated, they can't eat and they lose their hair plus other side effects.

So what if we could temporarily, say for 70 minutes, turn off the MDR protein pumps? The result would be that even, if we use small doses of the chemo drugs, small enough to not produce bad side effect, the chemo would still work and kill the cancer cells.

So how do we get the cells to turn of their MDR portent pumps for this short period of time or better put how do we specifically turn off the MDR protein pumps in the cancer cells and the cancer stem cells which are the ones that spread the cancer.

The answer is in understanding that cancer cells, and especially cancer stem cells, are producing at a fast rate and need a lot of energy to do this. More than normal cells. So if we for a period of say 70 minutes had a way to deprive the cancer cells of their energy source and because they are constantly grabbing what they need for energy before normal cells do, then IF WE depriving them of these sources of energy, we weaken the cancer cells to the point that they have no energy to properly and efficiently use their MDR protein pumps to eliminate the chemotherapy drugs EVEN when we only use 10% of the normal dose. Thus we are able to kill the cancer cells.

That is the treatment in a nut shell. And we administer all the drugs, per treatment, over a 70 to 90 minute treatment session via an IV transfusion. Treatments are most often administered twice a week. The number of weekly treatments needed depends on the cancer and how far it has progresses.

Is there a likelihood of reversibility of the treatment process? I read that it happens that some small cancer cells still remain, apparently all the harmful cells are not completely removed, and the cancer manifests itself again.

Quote from: garyn on August 23, 2019, 05:54:14 PM

Quote from: Crypto_hive on August 23, 2019, 05:17:29 PM

I see that you have an honest budget. I even thought that you might not have enough money to open a network of clinics. Alas, I do not know how much it costs in the USA.

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With $10 million and even more with $25 Million we can do it. You must realize that our growth is also dependent on opening at least 10 to 20 and using part of the profits from them to open more clinics. We need about $500,000 to $700,000 to open a Canine Cancer Center AND have enough to fund the operation cost for one year. We do not expect to have to support a clinic for one year. We fully expect profits to exceed operating cost fairly quickly. But I also try and have back up funds for operating cost.

We can even do this plan with only 3 clinics but it will take longer.

Gary
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I think you need not only to hold bounty companies and attract investors, but also to attract the media and talk about your noble goals, I think this will help a lot.

Quote from: defyance on August 22, 2019, 04:09:26 PM

I can only answer for myself. As I already wrote I not specialist in medicine and I at all fear different medical procedures. Therefore, there can be no question about the theft of your technology even if I have something to see. To invest or not here everyone has to decide for himself.

I think the main thing here is not to invest, or not, but to invest for what purpose, in such a project you cannot pursue the goal of only making money, here you need to think that this is a project designed to help people, the noble goal of the project.

Quote from: Beoga on August 22, 2019, 04:48:46 PM

Quote from: garyn on August 22, 2019, 03:39:44 PM

And I want to ask everyone a question. IF I would to show you exactly how the treatment is done. And gave you the science to back it up would more people on Bitcointalk invest? Or are they just scared. And if I gave show you the exact science how many of you would think that someone would steal the idea and do it on their own?

Please everyone who sees this I would like your answer.

Gary

I think that If you showed how exactly the treatment is carried out it could help investors to make a decision. It's one thing when someone says and promises, and another when you can see the real thing. On the other hand, it is not necessary to disclose all the details of treatment that can be stolen.

I think investors don’t really care how the treatment is carried out, and it’s unlikely that they understand something, the main thing is to have some guarantees that the project will succeed and that the clinics will really be built and bring profit to the project, and therefore profit for investors.

Quote from: wwzsocki on August 22, 2019, 11:16:16 PM

Quote from: garyn on August 22, 2019, 03:39:44 PM

...And I want to ask everyone a question. IF I would to show you exactly how the treatment is done. And gave you the science to back it up would more people on Bitcointalk invest? Or are they just scared. And if I gave show you the exact science how many of you would think that someone would steal the idea and do it on their own?

Please everyone who sees this I would like your answer.

Of course, a lot more people would invest if they will be able to verify if the procedure works in real life.

I just don't believe that you are not exposing all details because are afraid that somebody stills your technology.

To be honest, if there is a working treatment against cancer then this is like a holy grail and pharmaceutic companies would pay billions to get it. Additionally, if this really works from 2009 then multiple treatments have to be made to this date so I assume if anybody wants he could have all the details a long time ago.

Sorry, but i don't believe it. I haven't heard anything about a cure for cancer so far.

Unfortunately, no one is so eager to find and buy a cure for cancer, it is beneficial for many powerful people to get sick and spend a lot of money on operations, procedures and medicines, unfortunately this is now a business.

Quote from: defyance on August 23, 2019, 12:44:42 PM

Quote from: garyn on August 22, 2019, 02:53:20 PM

Quote from: defyance on August 22, 2019, 02:20:17 PM

I mean, a lot of people don't get well, they die. The problem of human mortality from cancer is very serious. I am not an expert in medicine but I think that it is not necessary to position the treatment of dogs and people as almost the same.

Let me tell you a true story. In 2003, the National Institute of Health (NIH) alone with biomedical and veterinary researchers around the globe, started the National Human Genome Research Institute (NHGRI), one of the National Institutes of Health (NIH).

A team led by Kerstin Lindblad-Toh, Ph.D., of the Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard, Cambridge, Mass., and Agencourt Bioscience Corp., Beverly, Mass., successfully assembled the genome of the domestic dog (Canis familiaris). The breed of dog sequenced was the boxer, which was chosen after analyses of 60 dog breeds found it was one of the breeds with the least amount of variation in its genome and therefore likely to provide the most reliable reference genome sequence. They spent $30 million USD doing this.

Now if you read that closely what was started was the National Human Genome Research Institute (NHGRI), by the National Institutes of Health (NIH). Yet they used a dog for sequencing or mapping the genome sequence.

So you might ask why did they use a dog in a Genome Research project for humans?

Well one of the reasons is that they believe the cures for most cancer in humans will come from cancer research in dogs. Because dogs get cancer like humans. Before this, when working with mice and such, they would insert under the skin a certain cancer tumor and then try to treat it. But with dogs, they get cancer in the same places as people. They get lung cancer, breast cancer, prostrate and others. So when researchers work with treating dogs that have cancer, 90% of that research will translate (also work on) to people.

So the reason the NIH was willing to spend $30 million to map the genome of the dog as part of the National Human Genome Research is WHY I can say confidently that this treatment will work on both dogs and people. And remember, that it has already been working successfully on people since 2009.

Gary

You can read all about it at this link https://www.genome.gov/12511476/2004-advisory-dog-genome-assembled

Many medicines and medical techniques are tested on animals. But develop and real use are not the same, especially if it's for people. I don't know all the testing stages, but should be clinical trials at least. I also think that different types of cancer need different drugs and techniques. Therefore, between the treatment of dogs and treatment of people from the point of view of official medicine must be a very big difference.

I think there will be a lot of people who want to try treatment, especially if this is a chance to avoid chemotherapy, because it really has a very detrimental effect on the human body.

Quote from: ufolly on August 23, 2019, 01:18:52 PM

As I understood the project does not promise investors a quick profit, but promises them to participate in the profits of the company and ensures that the price of the token will not fall. That's interesting.

Yes, mine is very important in investing - some guarantees that there will be profit, and even if not immediately, but gradually there will be a plus. As I have said many times - now few projects can save the value of the token after going public, it’s a big deal right now.

Quote from: zzortyx on August 23, 2019, 02:28:26 PM

A really working cancer drug would be a revolution in medicine. and people with only a small part of the rights (investment) to this drug could become very rich people. But the problem is that no one knows when such a drug will be created.

The main thing is that the people in the hands of who will have this medicine remain people and do not sell it for crazy money, so that they don’t give a damn about other people's lives.

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