Quote from: Quickseller on July 16, 2018, 04:20:57 AM

Quote from: Shelby_Moore_III on July 16, 2018, 04:00:49 AM

The rules havent protected me from torture [...] on this forum. Thus I do not think the rules are working very well.

I would find it very unlikely anything that has happened on the forum has caused anything close to what can be reasonably argued to be "torture", although I would be willing to change my mind if I see verified evidence of such.

Do you have native ancestry and culture? Were you as ill as I was? You can not accurately judge what tortures another person in the situation they were in. My inability to ~~kill~~[confront] him was torture for me (or lets say the inability to get justice).

We simply do not allow people to live when they talk to us that way in this culture. When someone makes that sort of statement here, then it is every member of the families responsibility to take revenge on that person and we are in torture until we can restore honor to our tribe.

Also you do not understand that mental state I was in because you can not until you have suffered the health that I described in my blog. If you have not read that section of my blog, then you do not know what I am talking about.

And if you are pure (northern, manoralism culture) European ancestry then you will not understand anyway because you defeated tribalism in order to prosper in the Agricultural and Industrial revolutions. (Even I have European ancestry, I am also locked inside of a Cherokee body to a great extent as Nietzsche correctly surmised)

I dont think some of these pussies around here understand that they simply do not talk that way to real men on the street. Just like you wouldnt say anything like that to the 6'5" defensive lineman from Arizona State University football team who I got into a fight with when I was 19 years old. And I do not have any exception just because this is the Internet. I would not react any differently whether you are online or in front of my face. If someone talks that way to me, it is war. They get away with it because there are no repercussions primarily because of the anonymity.

If you need a visual explanation, note that Nate Robinson has filipino ancestry. Watch him in this video becoming pissed off:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G28HcqIlTuM
https://youtu.be/I9UHAh72QhU?t=268

I explained in my first post in this thread that @stereotype was talking shit about my kids. Here is what Lebron James has to say about that:

Quote from: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24113118/lavar-ball-boasts-beat-lebron-james-one-one-says-back-my-heyday-hold-me

Ball and James feuded last year when Ball predicted that James' basketball-playing sons would struggle with the pressure of following in their father's footsteps. James fired back that Ball should "keep my kids' name out of your mouth," and said that "this is dad to dad; it's a problem now."

Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture

For the purpose of this Convention, the term "torture" means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental

Quote from: Quickseller on July 16, 2018, 04:20:57 AM

Also, if someone has harmed you in a way that is not against the rules, there may be a case for an additional rule and/or policy. If you think an additional rule or policy is needed, you can, and should make the argument for as much.

There no possible rule other than to stop allowing anonymity. So then we can prosecute under the law for laws in place against abuse over the Internet. I am confident there are such laws in the UK where apparently @stereotype is located. And if I ever determine who he is, then I will make sure either the law does what it is supposed to do, or I must fulfill the honor to my culture in any way that I can.

EDIT: I just posted negative trust on @stereotypes profile for violating the Protection from Harassment Act 1997: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberstalking#Europe

But I also recognize that honor killing is primitive. And that is why I would prefer that my grouping of like-minded friends can discuss in a decentralized moderation wherein we can filter out such inflammatory trolls (by choosing our common moderator), so that we might try to avoid those primitive outcomes, if at all possible. Even I mostly reject tribalism, but in terms of honor I do not, because it is also heavy ingrained into me from being raised in the Old South.

That is why I am proposing decentralized moderation as a possible alternative. Because I really cant think of another good way of handling the problem that makes this forum such an insane asylum.

Does anyone have a better idea?

Quote from: Quickseller on July 16, 2018, 04:20:57 AM

Quote from: Shelby_Moore_III on July 16, 2018, 04:00:49 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on July 16, 2018, 03:49:19 AM

I think Anunymint should agree to not excessively create successive posts in threads

I was perma-banned for that?

According to theymos' account, you were temp banned several times because of this, however the bans escalated because of ban evasion, that is, you were allegedly using alt accounts to post from when one (or more) of your other accounts were temp banned for the above.

I was apparently temp-banned not for consecutive posting but for copy+paste posting in multiple threads (or at least it seems like I had some reason to think that but I can not remember if someone wrote that or why I think that). But afair, I was never told why I was temp-banned so therefor I refused to follow it because it seemed to be some form of politicized corruption. The timing of the ban was very suspect and I think some of the people in the Monero community got me banned the first time because they did not like what I was writing. They were pissed off that I had claimed to have invented Zero Knowledge Transactions (in the summer of 2015 when I dropped down to 50 kg!) before they published RingCT. I remember that now after viewing the very few posts of the @HONCO account.

I would follow rules if they are clearly explained and make sense. But I will never follow corruption.

However, if @theymos creates a sane thing, I will act sane. If he creates an insane thing, then do not expect me to act insane just for him.

Quote from: theymos on July 15, 2018, 10:20:04 PM

This is a centralized forum, and if you want to post here, then you have to be willing to swallow your pride a bit, conform to forum rules, and take mods seriously when they give you warnings. If you're going to ignore mods, ignore rules, generally make a nuisance of yourself, and constantly escalate when called out, then you're simply not welcome on this centralized forum: go away and stop trying to sneak back.

As I mentioned before, I am willing to reconsider your ban if you promise to follow the same rules as everyone else and try to avoid getting banned, rather than having the attitude of "you can't ban me".

And no @theymos you can never ban me. I can come back anytime I want primarily because you want to allow anonymity. Tongue

(that does not mean I will, or that I want to, just to remind you of the limitations of your authority)

I am not proposing to eliminate anonymity. That is not a complete solution to the problems of discord, although it would probably help. That is why I instead am contemplating decentralized moderation as a possible improvement.

@theymos would be advised to be more mutually respectful and stop acting like a totalitarian asshole, if he wants my mutual respect. Now it may be that he just really isnt aware of what is going on. I am not privy the necessary information to know what goes on behind the scenes at his business.

Again I am more than willing to cooperate with a sane system.

If you create a system that provides no way for sanity to prevail over insanity then is that my fault as the user of the system?

I have created million user software and I did not blame my users for features being difficult to use. I improved the features!

If @theymos would consider that there is no way that sane people want to continue using a forum with so many anonymous trolls!

And we also do not want to use a system where one group can get another member banned from the entire forum just because they do not like what he is posting. They make up some BS story to sell to the mods about that user doing some multi-posting or what ever.

That is why we need decentralized moderation with all the data stored on a blockchain so that nobody can censor anything. But each of us can choose to filter out what we do not want to see. And do it groupwise, not just an individual Ignore feature. The moderated thread is somewhat close to what we want but I already explained up-thread why it is not sufficient.

Also I am not going to continue posting to a centralized database. I want all of my work to be open source. So that no corrupt party has control over the data.

It is ridiculous that anybody has to power to delete the data created by others! Hell no! Fuck no! That must stop!

Quote from: Traxo on July 14, 2018, 04:18:42 PM

Quote from: bitserve on July 14, 2018, 11:10:21 AM

Clearly flawed "design". Most annoying spammers would be perfectly able (and happy) to spend way more on posting than "legit" users. That's a FACT (See ~~spam~~ signature campaigns for reference).

Moderators of your own individual choosing who flag spam as not visible to you is not any more costly than bitcointalk.org having moderators who do the same thing.
The amount of spam that has to be filtered would be less due to it not being entirely free to post.
Remember the decentralized ledger only has to store a hash, not the entire content. Those who are serving the content may refuse to keep copies of spam which no one else ever pays to retrieve.
Are you presuming the moderators here are paid? By whom? So if they are profiting, then are they impartial and objective?

Let me make it very clear that I am not demanding any changes to bitcointalk.org. I just came here to explain my side of the story. And to explain what sort of forum system I would like to experiment with someday if possible.

Nor was I demanding to be reinstated.

I just think it is quite indicative of the insanity of this clusterfuck that @theymos is trolling me, lol. If he stops trolling me, then I will stop being a defiant rebel to him. He should admit his forum sucks in the area of civility (it does not suck in every way, some aspects are good). But the incivility and arbitrary politicized banning crap makes it so stressful and painful that most important people just dont. They leave or rarely visit.

Dont tell me to have a thick skin. Nobody needs that level of stress and abuse in their life. I realize that some guys on this forum are mental cyber-warfare assassins. They live and breath the warfare of this insanity. But some of us prefer to have peaceful and productive lives actually doing some vocation other than forum warfare. We do not have time and energy for all this crap.

Btw, the following is by far one of the least abusive posts that @stereotype made against me:

Quote from: stereotype on June 21, 2017, 11:13:20 AM

Quote from: cryptohunter on June 21, 2017, 10:15:21 AM

Quote from: stereotype on June 21, 2017, 06:40:57 AM

Quote from: cryptohunter on June 20, 2017, 10:00:19 PM

Board lost more with him leaving than if 99% of the rest bailed.

Gone right off you sir. Thats an outrageous observation, and quite insulting to many here.

No need for anyone to be offended. I am talking in technical knowledge to this specific arena. I said clearly I include myself in the 99%. If you believe more than 1 in 100 here can offer more technical insight and assistance in explaining to the non technical here then you simply have a different view to myself. I have no idea if you are a skill cryptographer/coder/conceptual designer so you may find other areas of assistance more useful. That is my pov only.

I have made several quite good friends here and would not like them to think i was saying I couldn't care less if they left. I'm sure they did not take it that way and understood I meant.

I was simply saying if you want to ask for example about a new design. Let's say xby (not that I am advocating investing there since I have not been able to get anyone capable to explain to me if it is a useful design or not yet) who else can you ask for an analysis, who else will lay out the positives and negatives for people to read in more laymans terms? he was one of the only persons that seemed to take his time and review them for free for everyone to read.

I am not kissing up to him at all I am simply saying that in my observations and to the best of my abilities I thought when he got into debates in the past with people of proven technical ability (through their work produced) he held his own and even at times found flaws in their designs. I also notice many proven top developers took notice of his opinions and asked for his advice. That to me is enough to see that those here who are now suggesting he wanted to seem smart are wrong and that he actually was/is very smart.

Simple as that. No ass kissing, not hating. Just the observations I made of events that have taken place.

If you were talking just in technical terms, then ok, yes. He certainly appeared to know his subject. Im even on record saying he is highly intelligent. But, smart?? No way my friend. No no no. The very opposite.....clinically opposite, even!
Smart people do not need to shove shed loads of repeated text down peoples throats.
Smart people do not choose to suffer for many years, from a very treatable condition.
Smart people dont feel the need to belittle people with very ordinary differing opinions.
Smart people dont make claims to have something Bitcoin-killer-better, when they cannot show anything to substantiate.
Smart people understand the importance of bringing others along with you, on a project.
Smart people stay away from the distractions of this forum, when theres other things to get on with!
Smart 50+ year olds first learnt the above, when they were in their 20's.
I could go on......

But it still exemplifies that he (who abusively claims to know psychology) feigns that he had no awareness that I was using the forum as a way of surviving my illness (actually he knows damn well that he was trying to break me psychologically because he could see I was so weakened by my illness):

Quote from: Shelby_Moore_III on July 16, 2018, 02:26:40 AM

I know I was not in a good state of mind or health. I was very depressed about my health but trying to remain productive and sustain some hope.

Quote from: Shelby_Moore_III on July 16, 2018, 01:06:08 AM

I was fighting for my life. I was in a fight-or-flight cortisol mode trying to stay alive.

Quote from: Shelby_Moore_III on July 16, 2018, 12:36:51 AM

I was becoming more and more ill during 2014/15 and the strife between @Anonymint and Monero shills was rising, so I decided I should try to quit the forum. But I wasnt able to quit because I became sort of dependent on it as the only thing I was capable of doing when I was so ill. I couldnt sleep and I couldnt stay awake, so all I could do was type like a zombie (not capable of coding).

And I told him and everyone many times that the doctors in the Philippines did not diagnose Tuberculosis. I went to the doctors and they never suspected nor suggested testing for it. And I did not know that latent TB is endemic here. I did not have enough money to travel until January 2017 (when someone I met on this forum loaned me some money to go get medical care in Singapore). I had exhausted all of my funds because I had not been able to work since 2012 because of the illness. Also because after I was hospitalized for the perforated ulcer in 2012, I lost $70,000 on some scammer then I had to continue making $1500 a month payments to the USA for my ex and kids. My 18000 oz of silver had been stored in a vault in Manila but they defrauded me out of about half of it, and only returned that half to me when silver had dropped to low $20s (even I had publicly predicted the year before in 2010 it would rise to $45). So by 2015 I had depleted all my funds. I already showed my medical records. The doctors only thought I had NAFLD (non alcoholic) fatty liver disease. So then when I dropped from 85 to 50 kg in July/August 2015, I was both extremely ill and also lacking funds. And also I thought there was nothing any doctors could do to help me because I already went to the doctors. Also I didnt have any health insurance in the USA and none of my family was willing to help me. So I was dying and no one cared. But luckily someone did help me and I got diagnosed in January 2017 in Singapore (they suggested checking for gut TB which I had never heard of and certainly @CoinCube who is a doctor never suggested TB to me over the years he knew of my symptoms since 2013!). Then I had to take these very liver toxic antibiotics for 6 months which further fucked up my liver. I was so far gone by that point that my body did not recover well from the TB. It is only by now some 1 year later, that I am starting to get some stability back to my health.

Actually I still do not think Tuberculosis was the only infection I had. I know my ex in the USA infected me with HPV in 2006 and that had started the decline in my health. And also in 2012 the doctors found antibodies in my blood indicating that I had been infected with dengue fever in the past (maybe more than once) and I never knew it. That exemplifies how strong I was it. It required multiple infections to finally bring me down. Multiple dengue infections oftens causes lifetime auto-immunity and bad health.

So @stereotype is simply incorrect about almost everything about me.

Quote from: stereotype on June 21, 2017, 02:58:24 PM

Agreed. Actually, i do believe it is possible to have all the socially inept character traits and ignored life-lessons that he possesses, and still be successful.....however, you're gonna need some very special people around you to support that. And thats the point here. Nothing meaningful can ever be created and maintained by this character because you just cant do what he claims to want to do, on his own. Collaboration is key, and it requires much input from much people to create something crypto-meaningful. It needs management skills he most definitely does not have.

He was actually very reasonable and mostly correct on this point. By far much less worse than the other highly abusive posts of his that I linked from my first post in this thread where I quoted my blog.

Quote from: stereotype on June 21, 2017, 02:58:24 PM

Did you notice on this thread how he choose to treat the very people who could have helped and collaborated with him, with utter disdain and disrespect.

Lol. There was no one in that thread who was capable of helping me. That is his huge inkblot ego.

Quote from: stereotype on June 21, 2017, 02:58:24 PM

Dont think Gavin or anyone else, would have stayed very long, if Satoshi talked to people like Shelby does.

His inkblot ego thinks the way I interact with trolls like him is the way I interact with my peers such as engineers who are capable like @keean.

Quote from: stereotype on June 21, 2017, 02:58:24 PM

He sees a threat, when he should have seen an opportunity, and his pathetic need to show all you how fuckin great he is, is the reason why there will be no Bitcoin killer. Whoever chooses to work with such an insecure 50 year old prick, deserves the biggest medal ever.

There he goes again flying off into the troll asylum like a psycho loon, but at least he did not mention my kids again.

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