Quote from: bitwho on June 17, 2015, 02:41:22 AM

Quote from: Alphi on June 10, 2015, 05:40:18 PM

Quote from: soopy452000 on June 10, 2015, 05:16:49 PM

I didn't mean to disrespect anyone's opinion or ideas guys , I just shared my views on the matter as I was asked to , it is upto the community on doing whatever is needed.

Thank you so very much Alphi for your kind inputs regards to the same and opening up a conversation related to the matter and opening door for further discussions within the community.

Warm Regards,
~SoopY~[/b]

It's cool, your not disrespecting anyone. your inputs and advice are very much appreciated. I have just seen too many coins reach for the hard fork option when it really isn't necessary most of the time. we need to always remember that whenever we hard fork, individuals, exchanges and pools, statistic websites etc that are not up to date are effectively locked out of the system until they update.. with a coin like Karma there are so many people who disappear for 6 months and then come back and yell WTF when their wallet is not working.

We also need to acknowledge the economic reality that if a coin is too much hassle for an exchange to support then they will drop it. Cryptsy just recently had problems with their Karma wallet which took them weeks to fix, they have fixed it now but I wonder how long it would take them to update their wallet if we hard forked. I don't like the idea of cryptsy's (or any other exchange's) karma wallet going offline again because they were too busy or simply couldn't be bothered fixing it...

I'm also wondering if those people who are unable to sync are still having the problem after they update their karma peers.dat file from someone who has kept it updated. I know its only a band-aid fix but it seems to have worked well in the past.

P.S. I am not against fixing the problem.. just against hard forking.. so if we have a temporary fix that works for now then we could always change the magic bytes to something more appropriate the next time we actually need to do a hard fork. Cheesy

Hey alphi

yeah i contacted Soopy to check out our coin. i was hopping it was not a issue that would require hard fork but seems like we can't escape it.

Yes an other hard fork might hurt us but this is something we have to fix before it escalates to major issues that would really hurt our network. I don't think we should do it asap as i am still trying to return the lost coins to users before they will need to update. How ever this is something we should definitely start to consider and figure out if there is something else we need to modify. Sure we might risk having Cryptsy annoyed and delist us but i think it's better to find out if they will delist us out of annoyance rather then double spends and/or forks issues.

We , Karma users, have been through worse. Let's all come together one more time and openly find the best solution

It is clear that a hard fork is needed. Maybe, this can even be an opportunity to innovate....

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