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And I'm glad you're talking about me being confused about resident. I wanted to brush over it when you talked about it before, but decided against it. Now that you're talking about it again... are you sure you're understand the term about "resident" here? Is it perhaps [it actually crosses my mind and I've been really curious] you mixed "resident" with "citizen"?

To make things clear, my understanding about "resident" on this specific matter, as well as what I believe applied by many [if not all] casino is not about people's nationality, it's about where their feet set place when they accessed the casino. Couple of casinos even describes nicely to me that [I don't recall the exact nation each of them gave me, but let's just throw random names and random casino here for illustration purpose] suppose a Londoners plays at Rollbit from his home, this is a violation of ToS. But when that Londoners, someone with UK citizenship, fly to Singapore or to Japan and accessed Rollbit, it's acceptable. Likewise, when a Singaporean or Japanese is on UK soil, they are not allowed to play on Rollbit despite their nationality and/or they're only staying for a short moment that the official rule of a country group them as a tourist instead of a resident.
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Resident is different than citizen. It really doesn't even matter since it all occurred after play. If you are living somewhere, it doesn't make you a "resident".

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Permanent residence (PR) in the UK means that you can live, work and study here indefinitely without the need to apply for a new visa. PR in the UK is also known as Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR). One of the key requirements for UK PR is, in most cases, you must have continuously resided in the UK for at least 5 years. However, the specific duration required for obtaining UK PR status depends on the type of UK visa you possess. For instances, holders of the Innovator Founder Visa or the Global Talent Visa may be eligible to apply for UK PR (ILR) after just 3 years. The most common immigration routes that qualify for UK residency are as follows:

Family visa: 5 years
Work visa: 5 years
Business visa: 3 to 5 years
Long residence to ILR: 10 years

https://immigrationlawyers-london.com/uk-residency.php

Did you... even read my long text? Yeah, I know it's long and boring, perhaps can be shortened out to few paragraphs, but those entire paragraphs consist of all of crucial information. The bottomline, though, casino's [many casino, not just rollbit] term for "residency" simply refers to the place when someone accessed their platform.

It's not about duration [I've explained above, not sure if you actually read them], it's about where your feet stepped on. The instance you step on UK, you're not allowed to play. The instance a Londoner leave UK, they're allowed to play.

And if it helps [few of that "long paragraph about this" I brushed earlier, of which I've actually explained once or twice in the past], those restriction and rules is not because a casino doesn't want to do business with a country. It's not because Rollbit hates The Queen, or Biden, they simply have that rule in order to be compliant to the country's rule.

They don't have a permit to conduct business in UK and those other territory. They can't legally cater a round of BJ for a Japanese tourist who visited UK because they don't have legal body and permit to cater gambling activity in UK.

If you still insist on those residency and visa as the one that apply, then I give up. I don't think that worth my energy. I'll advise you to familiarize with threads on this board, though. Those situation with "residency" and what they're defined according to casinos [thus, indirectly, this board] has been discussed on several cases.

How would you rule as is? Rollbit has IP. OP has resident, rental agreement and bank statements saying he's a LUX resident at the time of his play.

Rollbit should geo-block instead of tricking posters.

I read your stuff but it doesn't matter. I took the resident argument from AHOY. Go with your definition of resident. The OP moved. It would have been better if you sent it for better chance of reply, but I sent this

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Hey Razer,

The thread is getting fairly long on the $64k case. Is there anything that the OP can provide, per suggestions in the thread, that will help his case or is the decision final by Rollbit? Thanks

It looks like there's some confusion around the term "resident" in this discussion, and it ties into broader legal concepts of residency and citizenship. While casinos like Rollbit might define "residency" based on physical location at the time of access, legal residency especially in the UK has a far more structured definition.

For instance, UK immigration law distinguishes between citizenship, residency, and temporary presence in a country. A person can be a UK citizen but not a UK resident if they live abroad. Similarly, someone living in the UK on a visa might be a resident but not a citizen. The key factor is legal status rather than just physical presence.

This same distinction applies when dealing with businesses that impose location-based restrictions. Many online platforms, including gambling sites, operate under local licensing laws. If a casino restricts access to "UK residents," it is often referring to anyone physically in the UK at the time of access, regardless of their actual immigration status. This aligns with broader compliance laws rather than personal residency classifications.

https://www.gulbenkian.co.uk/our-expertise/immigration/indefinite-leave-to-remain/

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