Quote from: eddie13 on March 09, 2020, 08:23:13 PM

I have a hell of a lot of jewish blood in me, Ashkenazi, and actually I think I can tell by the way I think and act in certain ways..

Said in a post that exemplifies the worst negative stereotypes about Jewish thought and behavior, almost to the point of caricature. The irony is unintentional, I am sure.

Quote from: eddie13 on March 09, 2020, 08:23:13 PM

So I basically am a jew but I will talk shit about jews all day with their greed, cunning, and control of key industries, because it is true, and if you don't like it you can fuck right off..
Think that's racist? It ain't.. It's the truth..

...

Man A: "I sold my guitar to the pawn shop for $200!:
Man B: "Man you got jewed! That guitar was worth $600!"

Racist? Maybe.. Unacceptable? Nope..
Idiots that cry about it just expose themselves as idiots..

So, so, so... you are making a thoroughly subjective argument (hypocritically merited +3 by the self-appointed grand poobah of the "Objective Standards Guild"). The whole basis of your argument is your own inner experience of "I basically am a jew".

And that basis assumes facts not in evidence. Your whole life story and your allegations of your identity are not amenable to proof on the Internet. Even upon looking for subtle shibboleths of your alleged Jewishness, the only thing I find is your consistency with negative stereotypes. Including extreme "cunning", to the degree of playing both sides of the table to the detriment of both, to your own gain (as I will show presently). That takes chutzpah, in the negative sense.

Well, I will presume true your statements about your identity, for the sake of argument. Let's play that way... Like a nice Jewish lawyer, yes?

Thereupon, I will declare same to be inadmissible as irrelevant. Let's be objective: An argument about the nature of Jews (and by implication, about Jewish Questions) must be acceptable on its merits, regardless of whether the argument is offered by a Jew or a Gentile.

Quote from: eddie13 on March 09, 2020, 08:23:13 PM

despite some strong jewish lineage, which I almost never even mention..

Then why did you mention it here? Rationally, objectively setting aside any of my own potential biases, I see two possibilities:

1. You are admittedly "just weak" and "you can't handle it":

Quote from: eddie13 on March 09, 2020, 08:23:13 PM

If you can't stand up against what the world throws at you then you are just weak.. If you are weak then you will run to others to protect you because you can't handle it..

Yes, yes, but instead of "running to others" for protection when you present what I will assume to be a putatively good, but very unpopular argument, you hide behind your alleged Jewishness. ...or,

2. You are just another self-hating Jew. Those are a dime a dozen, because Jews always love a good deal! Wink

Nothing new... check out the history of the 19th century debates on assimilation. So, so, you will show how much you objectively despise Jews, and thus absolve yourself of the stink of Jewishness. Out, out, damned spot!

#1 and #2 are not mutually exclusive; and both are options whether your arguments are objectively correct, or objectively incorrect... you're just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.

Do you want to contradict me? Tuches oifn tish, stop trying to be a token Jew for others based on the cheapest form of identity-politics, make an objectively correct argument against Jews, defend anybody's free-speech right to say it...

Quote from: eddie13 on March 09, 2020, 08:23:13 PM

Their is a lot of truth in race-realism but ignorant idiots will call it all "racism" because they either don't know or will refuse to accept the actual truth of the world..

...defend "a lot of truth in race-realism" and "the actual truth of the world" on their merits, and also defend anybody's free-speech right to toss about racial slurs in a jovial manner... instead of mimicking a race realist, then jumping to the other side of the table and laying bait for you and your apparent buddy TECHSHARE to troll others into exactly the type of Internet flamewar where you can smear them no matter what they say. Based on a twisted guilt-by-association with somebody who is alleged to be insufficiently racist (!?), it seems. (I advise others to ignore: Don't take the bait.)

Or else, in Internet parlance, STFU one microsecond after you admit that your personal argument, presented by you as an individual, is not immune to criticism on the basis of "I have a hell of a lot of jewish blood in me". (Yeah, because everybody knows, Jews can say things about Jews that would get anybody else crucified, right?)

But if you do want to support objective arguments about Jews, you may want to first try remediating your ignorance about Jewish things, for example:

Quote from: eddie13 on March 09, 2020, 08:23:13 PM

Actually I think I even have mothers side bloodline and therefore could get into Israel..

The Law of Return is not the same as the halakha, as you are referring to. If you are going to opine about Jews, you should at least learn the basics about Jewish issues.

(Really. Personally, subjectively, the thing I find most annoying about most antisemites is their almost comical incomprehension of all things Jewish.)

Notwithstanding that point, I did notice that you somehow managed to pick Purim (sundown 2020-03-09 to sundown 2020-03-10) for vicious, two-faced, simultaneously antisemitic and petty-personal-grudge trolling that amounts to a Chillul Hashem, if you believe in that (given that you are purporting to speak from a Jewish perspective, and thus as a representative of G-d) or if you don't, is still an insult to the memory of your alleged great-grandmother and great-great grandmother.

Purim, of all days. Are you are trying to bait the conspiracy theorists, too? Or are you just fighting for Haman?

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