Quote from: bernard75 on October 02, 2014, 08:52:19 PM

I wouldnt give anybody my data, just to get the cash asap.
The bank is under their conditions with your seller holding the money rightfully, but sooner or or later, they
will have to comply with all claims(criminal excluded).

Hi,

I get your point, some data might be sensitive, so I can always agree to look at a censored version etc. It's enough to talk. If it's a complete nono, then fine, I'm not forcing anybody, just trying to help a bit. I'm not following the threads anymore, but I just got curious that the case still exist and that people who asked for help, having been granted a chance to solve the issue ( I needed to arrange a lot of stuff to be able to unblock a large number of cards) turned their backs without saying a word. There are senior users looking for help, but that is rare, most of the people were newbies. This may mean nothing, but it also may mean that those cards were used for illegal business. mBank didn't block the cards because they were used abroad, they didn't get blocked because a non-Polish citizen used them (how should they know), they got blocked because their AML issued an alert.

Quote from: Coinfan on October 02, 2014, 06:43:21 PM

A member posted that he went to Mbank branches and call them several times and the final information Mbank gave him was that the cards could only be used by polish citizens and that was the reason why the cards were blocked. Later it seems he deleted the post where he wrote that, but he still states more or less that here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=775730.msg8845280#msg8845280)

That reason never made any sense, taking in account that Mbank website uses several languages, I didn't read that in their agreement and that violated EU Law against european citizens. Also it doesn't explain why many foreigners still have working cards.

Even foreigners that went to a branch on Poland didn't receive their money back (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=746065.msg8905377#msg8905377)

It would be great to know the exact reason, because if the citizenship of the card owner isn't the reason and the blocks were caused by specific problems with the seller or owner of the cards, holders of active mbank cards could still use them (with small amounts).

On the issue of the transactions, anyone wanting to talk anonymously can use https://crypto.cat . However, I can understand why people won't be happy to give all details about their transactions. It shows too much about residence, habits, etc.

Besides, since they blocked cards massively, it won't be easy to figure out the reason by checking the transactions. The problem might be on the seller of hundreds of cards, not the owners; the problem might be on 1 of the 30 cards blocked, etc. It would be easier to ask again Mbank.

That's all well put. With regard to other comments from forum members, take mBank to court and lose more money and more time, good luck, if you're not willing to reveal your transaction history to me, then maybe you'd be willing to reveal it at court. Explain the judge why did you use an anonymous prepaid card instead of getting a bank account. Let's make this clear, most of you want to stay anonymous, and at the same time you're talking about taking them to court.

TV? I do understand that your funds are blocked, and I do stand on your side (I'm just trying to separate people who really need help from fraudsters), but do you really think that from the legal and moral point of view you'd convince TV to be on your side? In TV it would go like this "Angry group of blocked anonymous prepaid card owners who used the cards against the Terms and Conditions sues mBank for freezing the cards on the basis of suspicion over the use of the cards".

I can only advise the following: make up your mind.

Let us help you if you want to keep a certain degree of anonimity, but we don't promise that we won't end up in jail because of you and you'll have to bail us out (sorry for joking but I needed a but).

OR

Try to force them by contacting them, but do it in a coordinated manner, to show them that you're a group of people, but remember that legally, they're protected, not you, they are the ones complying with AML laws.

OR

Take them to court, provide your full identity and card details, but remember that it is you who breached the Terms and Conditions.

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