Quote from: wobber on April 29, 2014, 04:01:00 PM

Quote from: envy2010 on April 29, 2014, 03:48:36 PM

Quote from: spazzdla on April 28, 2014, 07:04:16 PM

YAAAAAAAAAAAAA The USA left that stance 100's of years ago.. Fema could throw you all into concentration camps and you would not lift a finger. The America american's are so proud of is LONG dead, long dead. Only a country of debt slaves remains, scared of their own shadow. No real American would of let the "patriort" act be signed in, it's over boys.

You don't actually know that much about the US, do you?

First, FEMA (the Federal Emergency Management Agency) is primary tasked with natural disaster relief (hurricane cleanup, flood evacuation, etc.). When it comes to throwing people in "concentration camps", they are at the bottom of the list next to the US Postal Service.

Second, public knowledge of those types of actions by the Federal government result in a enormous PR backlash on the administration, see Waco and Ruby Ridge as prime examples.

Third, there are more armed citizens in the US than there are military and paramilitary soldiers in the entire world (over 120 MILLION). Owning and using firearms is a cultural phenomenon in the US, has been for over 200 years, and this is very unlikely to change in our lifetimes. Forcible disarmament is even less likely than anyone successfully occupying Afghanistan.

Awesome points. I heard that FEMA concentration camp and plastic coffin theory. Actually, FEMA has tens thousands of plastic coffins for shit-hits-the-fan scenarios when you don't want corpses everywhere. And also have modular camps that can be set up in a few hours, to provide emergency shelter in those cases.

In regards to revolutions... revolutions now are changed. We need only 2-3 victims to be outraged. Back in the history, the regimes would massacre thousands nobody would lift a finger (see Rwanda). Now, with mass communications, nobody would even think of that. Too many cameras even in Africa now. This technology can make us witnesses and nobody wants to witness that.

Nah. Revolutions are still a mix of social circumstances and opportunity slated with a veneer of outrage and ideology, although now it's easier to find excuses and easier for the revolutionaries to communicate.

Don't lump me in with the guy who said Americans don't have more freedoms than the Chinese, although the gap is getting narrower and narrower every day with things like the super secret no fly list you can get on based on random suspicion.

But a very salient example - lots of victims of governmental violence and neglect in the USA. Lots of people feel distrust in government (in fact the majority consider the government a threat to liberty and 37% fear the government, 19% trust). People don't think the democratic two-party system works, much less the justice system, now we have an innocent American citizen teenager killed by drones.

Still, nobody's even thinking revolution. Because people still mostly have what they want in America, that is, a life, and also people know that any such attempt will be hammered down hard, perp lives destroyed with no chance of success, and even talking will get you in trouble.

The exact same thing goes in China, except they trust their gov't a lot more in polls.

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