Quote from: digaran on October 27, 2023, 04:27:40 PM

Quote from: WanderingPhilospher on October 27, 2023, 02:27:45 PM

I think your comments/scripts confuse people more than helps them, IMO.

I thought everyone is a cryptography expert around here, or worked for more than 25 years on EC, if my methods confuses you is because you don't try working only with scalars to penetrate N the group order. If I explain everything step by step, where would be the fun in that? Have you shared anything you could discover by operating over scalars?
Whatever method, equation you can use to get definitive results over scalars, applies to points as well. I have explained how to get meaningful results based on that before. To Alek on a few previous pages, regarding how to get target /1024 for sure.

Digaran, you're like a toddler when it comes to ECC. Without the proper knowledge about ECC, group fields, etc , you will always be mesmerized by every result you're getting when you perform some arithmetical operations on the curve.

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..if my methods confuses you is because you don't try working only with scalars to penetrate N the group order

That is so stupid in so many ways. The order is a prime number and you are trying to find a divisor that is different from 1 and the number itself....I'm speechless!

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Whatever method, equation you can use to get definitive results over scalars, applies to points as well.

Another stupidity. For example you can multiply 2 scalars over the group field but you cannot do that with 2 points.

It seems that posting whatever crosses your mind, it's your full time job! This wouldn't be a problem if you will present concrete examples from A to Z or if you will have a solid understanding about ECC. The problem is that you're lacking both. There are tons of materials about ECC and how it works - you just have to google it. The more you'll learn, the more you'll realize what a masterpiece the secp256k1 is. "Penetrate N the group order" by using a combination of subtractions and divisions is at least pointless!

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