Quote from: Gyfts on August 14, 2014, 09:13:48 AM

Clearly you have not been a victim of chargeback then if you think PayPal actually checks IP logs. Unauthorized access doesn't always mean a guy from Thailand took access to your account, so IP logs can sometimes become irrelevant. To come on here with no deals (doesn't matter what alias you can claim on other sites), that poses risk. You really don't need to tell me how an account becomes limited, because it happens frequently, so it's not sensitive information there. I'm not trying to be hostile, I'm letting other know of dangers and perhaps provoke some thought before trading with anyone. Not cherry picking you out here nor attempting to call you a scammer. From what I have noticed, there has been an influx of users selling Amazon gift cards, including buying. Some are legitimate, some are not so it's best everyone keeps an open eye and mind. Myself as well not calling anyone out, just everyone be safe, and you too good luck on your search for Amazon. Me personally, I will end it here, and not cause clutter to your thread.

Gyfts,with all due respect, you really do not know what you're talking about when it comes to PP and Amazon. Also you seem to put everything in the same pot: chargebacks, reversed transactions (initiated by PP alone) etc and even limited account activity. With a verified account, not a disposable one (like most of the people in the fraud business are using), even with a negligent PP approach to a particular claim, you simply can't get away with filing claims for whatever reasons. Every time someone files a claim even if it ends up being decided in their favour, their risk profile with PP is elevated and the next one becomes a much more difficult and so on, even if that user is actually the one being victimized. Stupid or dishonest at some point you'd be more of a liability than an asset. As far as "unauthorized access" goes, this is one of the most difficult to prove from a user standpoint, because involves a lot more than just an IP, and I will stop here because this is not common knowledge and a lot of less-than-genuine users would probably give up one finger to know it.
I appreciate your intention to stir up an "academic debate", but you know very little about PP, real-time monitoring (not just some after the fact logs) and the complex algorithms used in fraud and unauthorized access/use. What you seem to have is a very personal, less informed view of how Paypal operates and the risks associated with using it. Again, I do not endorse Paypal, Amazon or any other company, they are all a mix of good and bad apples, but to say that PP is a no-no it's just completely wrong. Also regardless of the payments platform, how you are doing a transaction and so on, you should keep in mind that at each end there is a human(-like) entity with more or less elastic morals, proclivity to behave in a certain way, really impossible to assess even based on previous experiences, so yes, every transactions has its own risk / reward profile and everybody should be very aware that nothing is 100% certain.

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