Quote from: Lucius on January 26, 2025, 12:03:01 PM

Quote from: leviathan-007-ban on January 25, 2025, 02:18:33 PM

Quote from: Lucius on January 25, 2025, 02:11:54 PM

When you do stupid things in life, be prepared for the consequences - and I can't say anything other than that it's really stupid to give your BTT account to someone else without first considering that someone will notice that the person behind that account has changed. The way some users of this forum think is incredible, in a negative context of course.

If the admins approve this request, I would recommend a signature ban for 2 years - because when you rent an account to a friend, then you deserve to lose it for a while.

Thank you for your attention.
Yes, it was a foolish idea I deeply regret my decision, but in that intention was simply to help a friend in need, not realizing the broader implications of my actions. I just wanted to help him while I was damaging myself and I didn't understand which was my mistake.
But I didn't 'rent' anything.
I just wanted to help him since he was the only son of his family and had no income( long story). I would never take anything for myself considering his situation.
People who know me here can understand I'm not the guy to abuse or take advantage of people.
I understand now that what I did was wrong, regardless of my intentions. I have learned a hard lesson from this experience and will never make the same mistake again.

I don't know how else to describe the situation in which your alleged friend used your BTT account to gain financial gain through a signature campaign in which you are participating? If you wanted to help a friend, why didn't you just pass on to him what you earned on the forum?

I personally don't think your story is true, but that you simply thought you would stay under the radar with what you were doing - or that BTT account was sold at some point to someone who is clearly a shitposter

Thank you again for taking the time to read my posts, Lucius.
You’re right that I could have just given him money or passed on my earnings directly, but I felt that wouldn’t truly help him in the long run. I didn’t want to create the impression that income could be gained effortlessly or without work. My intention was to encourage him to work for what he needed, not to give him something for free and risk fostering dependency.
I am willing to provide additional evidence if needed. If DT members would like access to my Telegram account to verify my honesty, I am happy to cooperate.
That being said, I now understand that my approach was wrong and that handing over my account was a mistake. I completely underestimated the potential risks and consequences for the forum and the community. I’ve learned a hard lesson from this, and I deeply regret my actions. Moving forward, I will never repeat such a mistake if I get the chance.

Quote from: JollyGood on January 26, 2025, 12:53:22 PM

This is where the OP has justified allowing a third party to use his account by claiming he wanted them to earn the money rather than be given it. The whole thing is a mess and I know some do believe his story whereas others do not believe.

Either way, if we accept his version of events he has allowed a third party to login to his account and plagiarise therefore a sanction is due. If on the other hand he himself plagiarised then a sanction is also due.

As Lucius suggested, maybe a (2 year) signature ban will be sufficient or if the admin want to send a stronger message to the wider community then a permanent ban will remain.

Quote from: mindrust on January 26, 2025, 09:40:48 AM

You could have used your account yourself, earn yourself and then help your friend but you didn’t. It is pretty stupid to let some other person access your account.

Thank you for your input and for reading my posts. I understand how this situation looks, and I take full responsibility for allowing someone else to use my account, regardless of my intentions. It was a clear mistake, and I deeply regret it.
At the time, my focus was on helping someone in need, but I now see how my actions could have harmed the integrity of the forum and violated its rules.
I appreciate the suggestion of a temporary signature ban by @Lucius as an alternative to a permanent ban. Because can give me the chance to rebuild the trust I lost. I sincerely hope for an opportunity to learn from this, prove that I can be a responsible member of the community again, and rebuild trust over time. Thank you again for your consideration.

Quote from: uchegod-21 on January 26, 2025, 06:56:49 PM

I don't know LoyceV;
I don't know Jollygood;
I don't know Lovesmayfamilies;
I don't know Xal0lex; Lucius, and others that wrote on this thread, yet I know them. Their account is their identity here, their usernames represent them forever in this community. This means, you are the one that plagiarized. Assuming it was a scam, you are the scammer. Assuming the forum is giving $1k worth of BTC to every forum user, you wouldn't have created this post to say that you aren't the one using your account.
Don't you think why o_e_l_e_o didn't give his account to someone else to be earning the least 100 bucks weekly, or are there no poor people in his place?

I don't blame you for giving your financial needy friend your account to earn, I only blame you for not following him up to know the kind of activity he is doing with your identity.

If there's a place for leniency, signature ban fit there. Goodluck!

Thank you for your comment and for sharing your perspective. I completely understand your point about how an account represents a person’s identity in this community, and I deeply regret my mistake in not protecting mine as I should have. I didn’t fully think through the consequences of my actions at the time, and I recognize now how irresponsible it was to let someone else use my account, even with good intentions.

Quote from: Ambatman on Today at 06:16:05 AM

Wow I really don't know what to say.
It seems the account wasn't really important to lend to a friend.
This still falls under "account changing hands "
I can say you really didn't think this true
What about if your friend shared a malicious malware without knowing? Or shared an information that was misleading?
Imagine a DT or reputable member giving their account to a friend for sometime
The catastrophe that will occur.
Success on your appeal, if there's no punishment it would encourage others to do the same or use as an excuse to escape their faults.

You’re absolutely right. I didn’t think it through at the time, and I regret my action deeply. Looking back, I realize how irresponsible it was to allow someone else to use my account, even if my intentions were to help a friend. I failed to consider the potential risks, such as the ones you mentioned, and how my actions could impact the integrity and trust of the community.
I completely understand why such actions can't be taken lightly and how allowing leniency in cases like mine might set a bad precedent. I take full responsibility for my mistake and have learned a valuable lesson from this experience.

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on Today at 07:50:37 AM

There is another account I suspect which is changed hand. I will need to check a few of my campaign sheets to find the username but I don't want to do it too because I am only suspecting and I can not give concrete evidences.

If I remember then I accepted and removed the user from my campaigns several time. My impression was that he used to make good posts but in the last few months or a year the account is posting garbage and it feels like he does not have any quality to make good posts too. I was wondering what could be the case? I can relate it now with at least something like account was given to a friend and the friend does not have any idea what to do but to spam for earning money.

I understand how it might appear that my account was 'changed hands' in the way you describe, and I take full responsibility for the actions taken under my account. However, I want to emphasize that I didn’t ‘sell’ or permanently give my account to anyone. My intention, albeit misguided, was to help a friend in financial need by allowing them to use my account temporarily.

Quote from: DYING_S0UL on Today at 08:21:37 AM

I have only one question for you mate! WHY?

You are big enough to know what your account represents, don't you. And you just gave it to one of your friend? That easily? Wow.

I'm sure you had good intension for your friend. You could have supported him financially by other means. But instead you choose to lend him your account. It's like giving a child a car to drive, accident was imminent. Big mistake from your side.

Lets see whether the administrator hears your appeal.

Honestly, looking back, I keep asking myself the same question: why? At the time, I truly believed I was helping a friend in need. My intentions were good, but I completely understand now that I chose the wrong way to go about it.
I hope Theymos and other mods consider my appeal.

Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on January 26, 2025, 11:03:20 PM

Quote from: LoyceV on January 26, 2025, 09:45:53 AM

I even remember a case (but not the username) where someone was unbanned because the plagiarism happened before he bought the account, and then was loaded with negative feedback for buying the account.

I didn't wanna say anything on this thread, but this?? How on earth am i not able to react with a laughing emoji on this?? ^{Aye Theymos!!! do something !!} Grin

So basically, Hades too him and gave him a place in the afterlife, but the chains were broken and the dungeons were cracked opened and he was set lose, only to be made to drag with him a 500lbs plough head? Bahahahaha!!!

Seriously buddy, I feel the pain...I remember reading a post on the first page or so, and someone said they confirmed this was true.... I believe your story, but you made the wrong choice. If justice will be tempered with mercy, you may get a signature ban.

I completely agree that I made the wrong choice.
I truly regret the decision I made and the impact it may have had on the community. I hope for the chance to prove that I can be a trustworthy member of this forum again. Moving forward. If a temporary signature ban is the outcome, I’ll take it as a fair consequence and a valuable lesson.
Thank you for believing my story, even though I know it might sound hard to accept, it means a lot.

Quote from: Lillominato89 on Today at 08:45:03 AM

The rules of the forum must be respected as the rules of life must be respected, therefore I believe that the decision must be the administrator's and whatever the decision is you must accept it.

But I want to say my piece, you gave your account to a friend of yours to make him earn something and this could be a noble gesture, but to me it seems more like a joke because in the end you would have had a convenience, earning without making an effort and paying for the services to your friend. let's face it everything was convenient for both you and your friend. but you did not take into account all the work that the users of this forum do to keep everything in order, to the manager of the signature who was cheated by you, therefore I believe that a punishment is due to you regardless. I am not a judge but it will be up to someone to judge your excuses that even if noble are not strong enough to get you a pardon.

Thank you for sharing. I regret not respecting them as I should have. I take full responsibility for my actions, and whatever decision the administrator makes, I will accept it.
At the time, my intention was to help a friend in need, but I can see how my action might come across as self-damaging.
This has been a valuable, though painful, lesson for me, and I deeply regret it.

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