Quote from: Lone Shark on August 02, 2017, 08:07:45 AM

Quote from: xypos on August 02, 2017, 08:02:15 AM

Um, how is this extortion?

In my opinion if i was the lender i would have done a similar thing. Because after all, logically speaking after the fork bitcoin cash + bitcoin would equal to roughly the value of 1 bitcoin before the fork. There could be a scenario where the price of bitcoin drops dramatically as a result of the fork, clearly it didn't happen this time but it is a possibility.

I'm sure that Lone Shark is financially secure enough and probably don't even care about 0.03 BTC or so.

He didn't threaten his borrowers, he simply asked them to either repay the loan or pay bitcoin cash + bitcoin, which they will get anyways.

Anyways he has waived all bitcoin cash repayments anyways, so if your agenda was really to help the borrowers then you already have seen your desired result. But i feel like you're just launching a personal vendetta on Lone Shark...

From the words of UFCkid, "perfectly worded"

After I posted that I will renounce the BCC (or BCH, whatever), he stopped replying here. Likely this guy is one my of borrowers that just don't want to pay that part. Note to that guy, next time just PM me. Every one of my borrower knows how considerate I am to them.

Some times sleep takes priority.
Lone Shark I am not a borrower. I got concerned about fellow forum members who are borrowers of yours. You do not operate in a silo here. You do not pay theymos commission on your lending business profits. What you do on this forum is open for all to comment and have a say. We are a community. Some of us take an interest when we feel others are being taken advantage of and stand up and have a say.

I do not know Joel. I am not Joel. But Joel has understood the issues I was addressing correctly. I see he took over where I left in trying to get the point across.
Thank you Joel.

Lone Shark, please re-read your post again and decide whether you gave your customers an option. Whether your change of terms were fair. Whether a debtor would have felt comfortable in speaking up against you if they disagreed with you. Your post was a poorly disguised threat to pay up with no real options. Just because you made the 1st line of the post large and in red didn't instil absolute authority in you.

Quote from: Lone Shark on July 20, 2017, 12:47:02 AM

!!! NOTICE TO MY BORROWERS WHOSE LOAN WILL BE DUE AFTER AUGUST 1 !!!

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Loneshark | July 20, 2017

This message is for a public announcement to my borrowers who have loans due after (or near) August 1, 2017.

Due to possibility of an impending soft/hard fork and possible splitting of the bitcoin network, I am informing my borrowers of a few things.

1. In case there would be a hard fork and the network splits into multiple blockchains (which means there would be multiple bitcoins), your loans will also be for multiple coins. (Ex. If you owe me 0.1 Bitcoins and the network splits into two resulting to having bitcoin1 and bitcoin2, you owe me 0.1 bitcoin1 and 0.1 bitcoin2.)

2. I will give an incentive of discounted interest (up to 50% off) to the people with loans due after August 1 to pay now or before August 1. Send me a PM and I will recompute your loan.

3. If in the event there would not be any splitting of the network, then the loan terms will remain the same.

4. If it does, however, you will still be liable to me for multiple coins as I have given you notice and ample time to settle your loans before August 1. You cannot say that after August 1 that you cannot pay the other coins, because your exchange or wallet only gave you one coin.

If I do not receive a response from you, I would assume you have agreed to the above terms about multiple coins.

Please be guided.

Thank you. Hoping for your cooperation and understanding

Cheers,
Lone Shark
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Lone Shark, you went from the above position, to the following after I raised these issues-

Quote from: Lone Shark on August 02, 2017, 05:11:16 AM

Since I don't have time to argue with this asshole kid, UFCKid.

To those who have pending loans with me which is due after august 1. It is optional for you to pay the BCH.

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I did not make this thread in Scam Accusations, it was moved here by moderators.
I made this thread in Lending. The issues I raised were lending issues and I believe that is where this thread should still be. I have PM'd Cyrus requesting
"I would like the thread reinstated to Lending because it deals with the issue of lenders trying to charge borrowers both BTC and BCH in repayment of their BTC loans.

The thread covers lending issues and is not a scam accusation. I will change the thread title to make it more lending specific if you prefer.

This discussion needs to be had in the lending section as it applies to numerous situations."

It is up to Cyrus and moderators where this thread sits.

Lone Shark you must have accepted the points that have been made were fair, hence your change in position. And even if no borrower of yours had a problem with what you demanded, the raising of this issue was still valid and may help the next guy down the road. We all want this to be a fair community where members feel comfortable. Surely you can agree that too much crap goes on and people take advantage of others all the time. I do not know you and I am not trying to harm you. I am trying to protect this community.

Peace. May the Bitcoin serve you well.

p.s. Please remove the negative trust. It is unwarranted.

UFCkid

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