Quote from: TPTB_need_war on April 15, 2016, 04:59:20 AM

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Synereo was launched as a vaporware ICO and the math whiz on the project is Greg Meredith who is into process calculus research and was one of key persons apparently on Microsoft's BizTalk design. Greg is into using Scala and also is collaborating on the math modeling of Ethereum's upcoming, promised Casper design (which btw several of us, excluding smooth, have criticized in the Ethereum Paradox thread for its fundamental insoluble flaws).

You are greatly misinformed here. The technology behind Synereo, Greg's SpecialK, the persistent distributed process calculus machine, had been proven in production for more than two years. They also had the distributed Splicious social networking app prototype of Synereo running on SpecialK. I believe you know all this but continue to repeat that Synereo was vaporware. Why?

Greg work in process calculus leading BizTalk was also a bases for business process orchestration standards including BPEL, the workhorse of Service Oriented Architecture (SOA) used by enterprises today. Greg disowned BPEL when it deviated from his model limiting its application. But that its the best thing out there we owe in no small party to Greg.

Greg work on Casper with Ethereum is the tip of the iceberg of the blockchain research Greg is doing. He has devised architecture capable of thousands of transactions per second. He is leading an evolution of the blockchain that is scalable, objectively fair, incorruptible and mathematically proven. Watch the hangouts, they are awesome. Synereo is blockchain agnostic and it is not planned to have its own blockchain initially, the point of the research is that synereo is guarenteed to scale and will be able to offer blockchain innovations to users in the future.

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I have pointed out that there are numerous P2P (aka distributed) social networking projects, so the idea of Synereo being the first and able to sweep the world, is very slim, especially they have no compelling features afaics. Thus I have criticized them for preselling tokens ("AMPS") with no adoption and on hype. Their major claim as an innovative feature is an "Attention Model" which is composed of reputation ("Reo") and a counter-vailing force of being able to pay to override reputation with the AMPS tokens. In other words, they aim to make the content that the users share more relevant. I had pointed out that the Reo needs to be fine-grained on for example #hashtags, and Elokane indicated that although that is not in the white paper they are implementing something like that, yet there is no holistic public specification afaik. They are claiming to be very close to beta, but I've pointed out that doesn't mean they are any where near adoption. I have also pointed out that Facebook users don't seem to have major complaints about the relevance of shared content on feeds, thus I doubt anyone will adopt Synereo (because their friends won't be there and much less content sharing and other chicken and egg dilemmas).

You seem to have ignored all the reasons for adoption I have given. Privacy is important to many who would rather not use facebook who will insist their contacts use a private decentralized system nobody owns or controls. Many users do not want a user experience that is dictated to them without the opportunity to branch their own. Many do not want others to control their streams.

If everything was spelled out completely in the original whitepaper they would have had it already and not need any funding. The whitepaper spells out sufficient justification for the approach, not every detail. You are asking for a book, not a whitepaper.

If you are suggesting that the average person does not understand what synereo is doing, that's very true. Its quite abstract and the average person or investor isn't going to see the real value it offers without a lot of research and theoretical mathematics. Dumbing it down is one of Synereo's major initiatives currently along with autonomous governance, UX design, etc. It's a BIG job but the community is committed and additional funding opportunities are presenting themselves.

It you have been following the hangouts or Gregs posts you should know the #tag or "filter" does control perceived REO. A religious evangelist, for example might have high REO with respect to his community, but not mine, due to my #filters. Filters are #hashtags on steroids!.

In the Synereo model, @channel are addresses representing bi-directional channels, while #filters are composable general formal social contracts in a language of decentralized mobile communicating process calculus consisting of only @'s (objects) and #'s (code). Once you see the whole picture is is gorgeous. Everything is type safe and algorithmically verifiable. Program behaviour is formally provable Greg is willing to answer anyone's questions. Don't give up on synerio because it is not one of those shallow ideas that generate a lot of excitement but have no meat behind them.

But, I think you know most of this so I really wonder what your motivation is to disparage synereo. You appear to agree with my arguments and then seem to ignore them. If your point is that synereo will not succeed by tomorrow you are correct. The beta will not be for three months. Adoption may start slow but I anticipate exponential growth. Resistance is futile :-p

You need not war with synereo, but thanks for keeping the AMP price low.

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