Quote from: pontikis13 on April 27, 2014, 10:20:44 AM

Quote from: Lab_Rat on April 27, 2014, 03:59:01 AM

From the past few days experience. 1) There is no way to answer questions on here reasonably as text becomes misconstrued and the individuals here are either looking to pick a fight or have been screwed over by too many people in the BTC community. If you would like to email me, feel free at labrat@labratmining.com and if you would like to request a call feel free to do so by the same means.

It appears that the only way to attempt to gain the trust of those who will not listen is to just show people how it's going to be. Please note that the Bonus will be paid out to all people who have transferred to the New Contract on May 10th and 2) any and all Bonus that has accumulated or will be earned in the future will not be held for any individual. You will begin receiving the Bonus at that time (if you have already accepted) or the time of your acceptance (if later than May 10th) of the New Contract.

I will be providing a link to the Old Contract exactly as it has existed since the beginning of the company via email, the website, and these forums as well as a transcript of the AMA and a link to the New Contract as soon as they are all prepared.

1) That's just not true. There has been a plethora of clear, concise questions which unfortunately for everyone you chose to ignore while actually responding to the people who are looking to pick a fight. It appears to my simple mind that you may very well be trying to create the misconception that there cannot be any rational discourse here by carefully choosing to reply to emotionally charged posts containing wild exaggerated accusations while ignoring the questions and posts that could clear everything right up. Is it really that hard to see how this leads to ever greater mistrust between you and the bond/shareholders? No it is not. Another reason why I no longer trust you.

2) Please clarify what exactly you mean when you say the bonus will not be held for any individual. Perhaps I misunderstood. Are you saying that whoever doesn't accept the contract change within the next 10 days will forfeit the accumulated bonus and then all subsequent bonuses until complying with your new rules? PLEASE tell me that you aren't trying to force people into accepting your new terms by way of coercion.

What is your reasoning behind this? WHY in the world should their dividends not be held? And if so what do you plan on doing with the dividends you steal from them by employing this scare tactic? This is rather disconcerting considering the fact that these dividends are right after a large increase in hashrate and will be one of the rare valuable dividends since difficulty will continue to rise....

We are growing VERY tired of being presented with these UNNECESSARY horrible dilemmas. Just hold on to the dividends you owe people UNTIL this is resolved. How difficult is that? Being honest is just as easy as being dishonest. It's a choice. You can still demonstrate your plan without just taking skeptic bond/shareholders money! Just payout whoever still trusts you and decides to move to the new contract the precise amount that is analogous to their rightful share and quit playing games with us...

I completely agree with this.

Labrat, try to put yourself in our shoes. How would you react to a hardware provider that told you there was a problem with the hardware you had ordered, they couldn't tell you yet what the problem was but they'd get back to you. And then they went silent for weeks no matter how much you begged for an update. All you wanted to know was what the problem was, but they refused to tell you. Then one day they came back with a lawyer and a change to the terms of your order that sounded vaguely like what you originally agreed to, but you weren't really clear on what the differences were, except that it added a clause that you couldn't sue them if they were unable to provide what you originally ordered. And they told you, you must accept these terms immediately or your order will be cancelled and you will forfeit your down payment. But they still wouldn't tell you why the terms had to be changed, nor what the problems were. Would your first reaction be:

1) Oh well, they must know what's best for me. I guess I'll just agree to it. I certainly have no reason to doubt them.
2) What the fuck is going on here? Huh

How can they treat me like this? Why won't they answer any of my legitimate questions? How can they expect me to blindly trust them after all of this?

This is a bit of an oversimplification. There are way more issues that just that one. But just think on that one example. I have a feeling that if you don't stop treating your early supporters/investors like they're the enemy you're going to find that people are less willing to go along with your desires (even if they actually were what's best for everyone, since they have no way of knowing that) and more willing to say "fuck it, lets burn this shit to the ground".

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