Quote from: redhack on July 21, 2017, 11:50:52 AM

Monero doesn't even have a working GUI for last user. If we compare crypto currencies to fashion, Monero isn't popping anymore. They are not trending. Ethereum and WAVES based tokens take over the market. People don't need Monero to stay anonymous.

There is a working GUI since 8 months.
https://getmonero.org/downloads/

Quote from: BitcoinHodler on July 21, 2017, 12:23:37 PM

Quote from: bitwolf on July 21, 2017, 06:22:51 AM

Monero is the only most secure,

define secure and how security of monero is different than other cryptocurrencies. lets say bitcoin for example

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1. A bit large blockchain but you can't have everything
2. (btw multiple light wallets impls. are coming and you already has the possibility to use remote nodes if you want instant usability).

you have already answered your question with these 2 points. and on top of that is the adoption, when a coin has no usage (apart from some scattered darknet usages) people will only invest in it. and these "people" are traders only.

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Bitcoin at its beginning was praised and endorsed by the people because they thought and it was advertised as super duper secure, private and anon and in the same time super fast and super cheap. It turned out it is none of them. Even the last two "hopes" are very inaccurate lately.

please don't bash things you don't understand.
bitcoin is the most secure cryptocurrency in both code and network. and i am genuinely looking forward to reading what you have to say to my previous question.
it is private, and it gives you a good level of privacy and privacy is a bit different from anonymity
bitcoin has never supposed to be 100% anonymous. that is why Monero exists and why we use it when we want more anonymity. but nobody promised bitcoin is anonymous. if you heard it from someone, that person was confused.
bitcoin is fast enough and it has been cheap over the course of its existance which is nearly 9 years. if your whole measure for bitcoin fees is the previous couple of months only then your measure is wrong. and fees are "super duper" low again.
and i would love to see how Monero will work under different types of attack.

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Now you have Monero which actually is the only one coin that really combines these qualities and the community somehow forgets about it. I feel like the cryptoworld now is run by speculations, corporations, pump/dump groups, PRs and bribes. Where did the technical aspect go? Monero has dozens active developers but even the Bytecoin from time to time gets pumped to Monero cap - wtf really? - bytecoin devs haven't had anything written on the code in the last year - only the patch that covers the cryptonote vulnerability found by the Monero devs. The market logic is simply laughable. And in order for this unique coin Monero to have more adoption the cryptocommunity really has to take out its head from the hole and stop turning away from the main crypto principles.

i agree with most of this part and it is sad. the altcoin scene has turned into an ICO machine that creates useless junk and platforms like etherum has made it easy and is gaining an undeserved attention while good projects like Monero are going unnoticed.

Monero hasn't been hacked, hasn't been rebranded, hasn't been 1000 times critically patched and no government or agency has or can have any data on your transactions. Even in the last case with AB days ago: https://twitter.com/fluffypony/status/888150675946782720
This means secure.
But hey if you mean only about bruteforce than - yeah - I'm no math pro. Probably equal secure.
About the usage - ehh that's what the question is - why you don't adopt it more??? You prefer everyone to know what who you are, what you have , your earnings, your hobbies, your buys, your sells??? Btw same thing is valid for your children too. It's not very comfortable thought eh ? And btw blockchain is big but privacy always needs extra bytes. And I really doubt that anyone will stop at several extra gbytes on his ssd. Come on...

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