Quote from: Blaksmith on January 12, 2015, 04:19:50 AM

Quote from: hozer on January 12, 2015, 04:00:43 AM

Quote from: ThePeePs on January 10, 2015, 04:37:03 AM

From being a miner and holder of CAT a month after it was launched, I too have notice the sharp divide amongst those in the community that were either looking for CatCoin to be successful, or just profitable to mine. And while yes, it would be great to have a coin that's profitable to mine, that's counter to having LONG TERM successful coin.

CatCoin was one of the first coins I became really involved in, and is one of the few that is still around a year later. Though I have only been involved in crypto for a year, there has one thing that I have noticed to be true. If a coin looks to be successful for the long term, then looking at the short term, or even medium term outcomes is completely POINTLESS!

Yes, we have had our troubles with the diff re-targeting code when we were getting slammed by some multipools, in the past, but I think most, if not all, multipools are either ignoring us or have taken us out of their pools entirely.

I have been quiet and netual on this, but I feel that it's time I speak up. The last thing we need right now is for people like Hozer and etblvu1, who have been either FUD'ing or trying to take over CAT, to continue to do so. They need to sit down, shut up, and let the Dev team do their thing.

Hozer almost had me running his rouge code on my P2Pool node, as he took me by surprise telling me that there was a new version of the wallet out, and I needed to update. Luckly for me, I didn't take the bait, but almost did. It was only after re-reading the dev channel log, seeing no mention of new release, or on here, that I saw that I shouldn't "upgrade" and didn't.

As for the logo, I still like our original one better, but just my two cents.

Seriously. I asked you to run some code to fix a network problem because I was the only one actually writing code. And when it became clear that people actually gave a shit, I made it quite clear how to fix the problems.

I hear a lot about 'the dev team', but all I see is marketing. If the dev team had some code updates, either of removing the 30 second minimum, or just provide *some* sign of life, I'd happily shut up. The history of this coin is it gets taken over by new developers when the old developers fail to maintain it. So instead of FUD, how about the dev team maintain the damned thing, and try to take constructive criticism. Otherwise if we think cat has been abandoned, *again*, we'll take it over, *again*.

Ok, I've held my tongue long enough...
Hozer, You and I have never had "arguements, or FUD spreading or that kind of shit", but the ONLY place that we have disagreed was with the way that you TRIED to take over the coin with your rogue coin a few months back. A few of us HAD to spend OUR OWN HARD EARNED CASH to lease out rigs to re-gain the coin, even after we have ALL said "NO, WE WILL NOT ACCEPT YOUR CODE!", but you ran it ANYWAY ...

1) CODE IS STILL BEING WORKED ON, AS TIME PERMITS, because SOME PEOPLE HAVE LIVES OUTSIDE OF CRYPTO CURRENCY, BUT STILL MAINTAIN AN ACTIVE PART!
2) We have "3" proposals in the works to fix the algo.. WE ALL KNOW THE ALGO IS FUCKED WHEN THERE IS VERY LITTLE HASHING ON IT! This community is speaking up, and USING THE OLD CODE, to also help prove our previous theory when there is STEADY HASHING. THE COMMUNITY CARES... Apparently, you don't care aobut the rest of the community!
3) The only thing I hear out of your mouth Hozer, every time we talk about it, is HOW CAN YOU LINE YOUR OWN POCKET WITH CASH.
4) The code changes you suggested, REJECT VALID blocks just because the timestamp is "to short", and your answer to that is "have the mining rig CREATE a timestamp in the future" .. That is EXPLOIT CITY.... NO THANKS!
5) The dev team is NOT dead as you are trying to spread FUD about it. You have been ejected BY THE COMMUNITY...

My rant is over, and I will NOT respond to any more FUD from you.. thanks and have a nice day.

Blak

First, thank you for finally saying something. You're the only person that posts here that has actually taken the time to write and publish some damn code, so that means a lot. Everyone else is either mining or marketing. And then there's someone who's either got well over a gigahash, or is writing and deploying *unpublished* exploit code to do this: 9Uueyr4T8dmzeZHNhYPjYdZbPpxmE9tUMh

If I wanted to line my pockets, I'd write my own automated counter-exploit code, and orphan those blocks, and not tell anyone about it. But it would probably cost me more to rent the hashpower than if I just bought a lot of catcoin.

What I would rather do is publicly explain to anyone who cares to listen how to modify a stratum proxy to get the network to be more stable *without changing catcoind*. But that will require coordination and some hashpower, and willingness to consider that maybe we should have a different way of looking at timestamps than Bitcoin did.

Now, I understand you and I disagree about the value of timestamps. So please, test your theories. Remove the 30 second minimum, and test it, live, and see what happens.

It irritates the hell out of me when everyone screams about "we don't have time to test this cause life", and then gets pissed off because I go and test something.

Or jeezus christ, go look at the travis-ci integration that mainline Bitcoin has for automatically building and testing every commit to the repository.

-- edit: addendum --
When I ran some code that nobody liked I thought Catcoin was an orphan, and needed someone to take it over. The fact that you all spent actual cash convinced me there was a community interested in doing something, and well, you know, being a community. The problem is that since then, nothing has happened besides a lot of infighting and FUDing.
And for the love of ceiling cat, post more cat pictures