Quote from: inBitweTrust on January 12, 2015, 05:42:05 PM

Quote from: HELP.org on January 12, 2015, 05:10:52 PM

The answer is to push these people out so they are not associated with Bitcoin to the average person the street.

Bitcoin is an open source protocol which is open for anyone to interact with. You cannot push us out. Crypto-anarchists and cypherpunks gave birth to this technology and we will not be intimidated to leave or ignore the Raison d'être for bitcoin by coercive statists. You are free to use this technology along with us despite your disappointing philosophical and ethical beliefs. The Bitcoin ecosystem is a big tent and is open for everyone to benefit.

You disparage our ideology and principles but in reality should be grateful to the "fanatics" as we are the ones that will insure Bitcoin will survive and prosper. We aren't looking to scam anyone or looking for a quick buck but are in it for the long haul and will continue to support bitcoin as long as it stays true to its foundational principles.

No, you will be "pushed out" as more reasonable people get involved. Not "pushed out" in the sense that you can't use it but pushed out by obscurity so that, for instance, the important Bitcoin conferences won't be dominated by nut jobs and agenda-pushers. You are mistaken that the wing nuts will be the ones who ensure Bitcoin will prosper. That may have been true early on but now it has turned into a detriment because they scare normal people away and make Bitcoin weaker. Those people routinely overestimate the importance they have and the size of their market which is why they are the main source of pro-Bitcoin misinformation. The anarcho-nut job market is not large enough to support companies like Coinbase, Circle, BitPay, and the many new companies that want to get involved.

The same think happened in the early days of the Internet you had people who insisted there would not be any ads on the Internet because it was for research. Others claimed the Internet would be free from regulation, etc. They thought that because they were the early pioneers that they would control things forever. Remember when they all got together to turn the web pages black in response to promised censorship laws? Not only did the people in power not care, the whole protest with black web pages had to be explained to them. The same thing is playing out in Bitcoin. The wing nuts are on the road to obscurity but they are doing damage at the moment. You may think that once people do a Bitcoin transaction that they will be walking around with Ayn Rand books under their arm but I don't see that happening.

As far as being grateful to the early people, thanks for your effort and I hop you made money in the early days because you are on the road to nowhere. Of course most will outgrow the nonsense and turn into normal people. there is a commercial that runs on the 90's Sirius channel "You used to Rage Against the machine ... and now you rage against the washing machine" and they have someone yelling at a broken washing machine. But Bitcoin is decentralized so I owe the early adopters nothing and they don't owe me anything either for promoting adoption or getting that mining ruling from FinCEN.