Quote from: Josef_Stylin on January 14, 2015, 07:20:12 AM

Quote from: youseeberkeley on January 14, 2015, 07:13:11 AM

Quote from: Josef_Stylin on January 14, 2015, 07:07:09 AM

Quote from: youseeberkeley on January 14, 2015, 07:02:59 AM

which was close to a 80% return on my investment already

Quote from: youseeberkeley on January 14, 2015, 07:02:59 AM

how is it even possible that you guys didn't ROI or lost money on this? I'd like to know.

probably the same way you just said you did?

if you consider that a profit, well I have $80 that I would like to give you for that $100 bill in your pocket.

I'm afraid you didn't finish reading my post:

Even today, if I sold those BTC and Paycoins, I would yield 4x$200 + 500x$4 =

$2800, almost double my original investment.

no, I actually did read it. You threw in a ton of circumstances that had nothing to do with your initial investment into his cloud mining operation. The investment you made into his cloud miners returned 80% of your investment, correct?

What you did afterwards mining XPY or anything else has no bearing on that. What if I, or anyone else, invested heavily into the cloud miners and were promised that they were "always profitable" and then did not follow your exact path into XPY? We're stuck at 80% roi? Right. One action has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

You're spinning what you opted to do independently and convincing yourself you turned a profit from the cloud miners. They didn't.

You gave someone a pre-payment of bitcoin and he paid you back 80% of it over the span of weeks? months? That's not profit.

If I give you $80 for your $100 and then you turn that $80 into $105 on your own that doesn't change the fact that I shorted you 20% to begin with.

Good job, Jugashvilli ... Grin