Quote from: smoothie on January 25, 2015, 09:11:13 PM

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Quote from: jonald_fyookball on January 25, 2015, 04:32:54 PM

Read my question again please...key phase "in this video".

He may have done the design by hand (doubt it) but when video starts it is already there.

Do you disagree with that?

Wow. You should be either a lawyer or a news reporter. You're good at manipulating questions just to get the answer you desire.

I'm not sure if that was meant in support or derision, but
I'll take it as a compliment, thank you.

It is not hard to ask the right questions
when you stick to the point.

What is the point?

The point is that this video was supposed to prove
WoodCollector's skills in hand carving.

Since the wood is already engraved to large
degree at the start of the video, who in
their right mind would conclude that this
is a good proof of hand carving skills?

And why in the world is Tecshare asserting
that something was done by hand
that's NOT in the video?

You obviously do not think it is possible to carve that kind of detail without having some kind of reference do you? I would say that burning a sketch of what he is to carve into the wood would not take away from the fact that he was hand carving his pieces.

And I would. Having nicely burnt out stencil to "carve" around is not hand-carving.

He claims he used carbon paper to do a stencil and only that. Not he is supposedly using another tool?

Please...

I think at this point we are primarily arguing about semantics. I don't think this is anywhere near the scandal it was made out to be.

Did he misrepresent himself in claiming to "hand carve" all his pieces? Probably but this really depends on your definition of "hard carved", and pre these threads would probably not demanded such a strict definition of "hand carved" as is being asked for now.

Would his art have been valued/sold for less if these threads were never made but WC published the same video for potential customers to see how is art is made? Maybe - but not 90%+ levels as previously discussed as the pieces are made in a manual fashion and WC would need to put a lot of work into his pieces and would not sell for 90%+ discounts (he would be earning sub min wage if he did). The use of a laser implies (to me) that the pieces were made via some automated process.

Was he using a laser to carve the piece in the video? No. He may have used something to burn the sketch into the wood, however as mentioned above the disclosure of such would not diminish the value of his work by 90%+