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The comment on BadBear's negative trust is that he was giving fake customer reviews. Fake reviews is a scammy behavior.

"fake reviews" is once again solely relying on the fact that he is either an alt or a scammer, neither of which have any proof being presented about it from anyone, just tons of accusations and speculation in mob format.

the fake reviews rely on the fact that they are alts of wood collector. In your previous post you said that for the sake of arguement you would assume they are his alts.

Regardless of how good WC's work is, if he is using his own alt accounts to tell others they are satisfied customers when they are really not is scammy. It is very similar to buying trust.

Now you are twisting my words. For the sake of argument doesn't mean I agree. I disagree. I think WoodCollector has absolutely no alts. "for the sake of argument" means lets put that premise aside for a moment and examine his evidence for calling him a scammer on its own right independent of the alt accusations. Literally EVERY TIME there is conflict on this forum some asshat comes out and claims some one is an alt of some one else, this is probably the single most abused and unprovable accusation on the forum.

Right. But if you were to assume they are WC's alts (I know you disagree but lets say that you were shown proof), wouldn't you say that giving yourself fake reviews is something that you would consider scammy?

Maybe if there was some actual proof of this... but there is not. All we get is basically we cant tell you because of "national security".

Well I guess it boils down to if you trust BadBear enough to believe that he has personally verified they are one and the same.

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furthermore there are a lot of people on this forum that are engaged in trust farming using alts and they almost never get negative feedback.

I agree, however I think it is much more difficult to prove trust farming then it is for an admin (who has access to things like IP addresses, payment TXIDs that pay for evil points, time users logged in, what threads are being looked at (? - I think this is a feature of SMF), ect)

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Clearly this all revolves around the initial accusation that he was using a laser engraver, and no actual solid evidence of this has been presented, just speculation after speculation endlessly. Convenient how this is set up so the burden of proof is set upon WoodCollector and not Nubbins to provide sufficient evidence of his accusation.

I think this is speculation. I also think he has gotten much more lazy with his alts and they are acting much more like alts/socks IMO (almost to the point where he is now trolling).