Quote from: jonald_fyookball on January 27, 2015, 12:38:46 AM

Quote from: TECSHARE on January 27, 2015, 12:23:45 AM

For the third time, why is it that the burden of proof is upon WoodCollector and NOT upon Nubbins to provide proof of his accusations?

First of all, there has been plenty of evidence against woodcollector
such as the previous posts in the forum asking for help with lasers,
the line markings that people have pointed out, the dishonesty about
vectors and African woods, etc.

Second, he could have chose to ignore the accusations and said "whatever, prove it" but he did not.
He chose to take on the burden of proof when he made the video, attempting to prove
his skill at hand carving.

Actually, no, him asking about a laser engraver is not proof he owns one or used one for his pieces. Calling speculation evidence doesn't magically turn it into proof. Additionally if he was it would be fairly idiotic to ask about it on the forum he is supposedly trying to rip off wouldn't it. This is just more crafting of a bullshit narrative. Grasping at straws.

This is SPECULATION NOT PROOF

All the bullshit about vectors and supposed experts in African woods is just more bullshit drummed up once the laser theory was dismissed.

He didn't just dismiss the accusation because he could even reply A MOB WAS ATTACKING HIM and his reputation. Don't pretend like he had any opportunity to justly defend himself, because everyone here judged him guilty before he could even reply. ALL 100% BASED ON SPECULATION. If you had actual proof you would have posted it by now, but you don't.

Quote from: Hellot on January 27, 2015, 02:29:58 AM

Quote from: SodaWarz on January 27, 2015, 02:14:13 AM

Quote from: Hellot on January 27, 2015, 01:01:40 AM

Oh wow! You can even see where he left the laser in place on the B and it burned more than he wanted to! How fucking sloppy can you be??

Hellot could you please not remove every ounce of doubt anyone ever had that you were an idiot.

Laser machine cutters are CNC controlled

you cant "leave the laser in place too long and have it burn more than you want to" the damn things are automated.

Could you guys be reaching any further with your wild accusations and conspiracy theory's to try and make people believe that half the crap you have said is anything close to proof.

Maybe it's a knot in the wood, I'll admit that, but I'll be damned if I don't see all of the lettering and outer circle already etched into the wood. At this point, it's clear to me we're just being trolled.

No of course it couldn't be something simple like he used a hand guided router to carve it out, that would make far too much sense. Lets also gloss over the fact that a laser burner CHARS THE WOOD. The carved parts are darker (like from friction), NOT CHARRED BLACK like a laser engraver does.

Quote from: smoothie on January 27, 2015, 12:52:32 AM

Two different contexts that are worlds apart.

You changed the context and that shows your lack of being neutral and calling things as you see it (from the video that is). You could not have known what he did 100% unless he said so and showed it on the video, which he did not. And you have the gall to say we are speculating when you do such?

Cheesy

It's so funny that my asking questions about how he got the stencil on before he started to "carve" the wood was never answered by WC himself and yet you claimed to know exactly how he did it without confirming it with him first.

LOL such fail around here.

Make your way over to cryptocrypt.org and sign up for a membership (if you can).

Again, more semantics from one of the biggest trolls on the forum.

You have some nerve talking about "lack of neutrality" considering this whole time you have been talking as if it is a fact he is using lasers. You claim to know I didn't confirm with him first. I in fact DID confirm with him first, but I guess you can read my mind as well as all of my private messages right? WC isn't answering because he knows you are all a mob of idiots that wouldn't be convinced if he hand carved a bust of Abraham Lincoln into your foreheads. Also he has a JOB, something I am betting most of you here don't. Keep repeating yourself Smoothy, maybe some one will buy your bullshit if you say it over and over and over. I am interested to see how the standards of this accusation will YET AGAIN shift once he produces more video of his hand guided routing and hand carving.

THERE HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY ZERO PROOF PRESENTED, ONLY THEORIES, ACCUSATIONS, AND SPECULATION.