Quote from: TECSHARE on January 27, 2015, 03:46:40 AM

Quote from: smoothie on January 27, 2015, 03:26:06 AM

Wrong.

This is not proof of anything except that you had a conversation with him and he showed you some pictures, but hey, everyone knows if you repeat your bullshit enough times some of it might stick right? You are still in fact judging him guilty before any proof was presented. Your unanswered questions and speculation of his guilt based on a conversation you had and a picture of carving tools is not proof of anything.

Quote from: smoothie on January 27, 2015, 03:28:43 AM

I've worked with a laser engraver and his work does look laser engraved so I told him directly what I thought. See my long post above where I approached him nicely about it in dec 2014.

So no you can't say there wasn't any evidence that he was being dishonest as he already has been proven dishonest by saying he never said he does original/custom work but then I have found several of his own posts where he clearly and strongly implies he does do original work...just to find out he uses clip art off of the internet. So no...he now has reason to be doubted as he misrepresented himself as an artist that does original/custom work.

Burden of proof is on WoodCollector.

I own a laser engraver. This looks nothing like laser engraving. Laser engraved pieces are left CHARRED not just darker than the surrounding wood. High RPM rotary tools have that effect, not laser etchers.

As far as him supposedly lying, I already addressed this point multiple times. He used LICENSED works which were then MODIFIED, making it under law a DERIVATIVE WORK of which he has the LEGAL RIGHT to claim as his own. Furthermore he NEVER DENIED using stock images as a base.

Again, all of your claims are baseless and based on theories, not facts.

Using CLIP ART and then...

Saying he tailors his designs to his customers and he does custom work is proof enough for me that he operates in a shady manner.

They are not the same.

ORIGINAL != DERIVATIVE WORK as he never said that in any of his postings about his pieces. Now he would be operating on a technicality which he and we all know is bullshit as what he was going for was "GENUINE NON-DERIVATIVE ORIGINAL WORK".

Read the following and tell me what that he wasn't trying to pass the perception that he actually creates original artwork and custom designs for his customers:

LINK: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=927942.msg10189078#msg10189078

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Everything commissioned is tailored to speak to the client directly. Sometimes they have an idea already, other times they give me just a concept like they want it to symbolize something like movement like "Transcendence" .

It all revolves around who the client is as a person, their passions, what makes them tick, then i tailor the art to speak directly to them, something that embraces all that they are as a human being.

OR THIS:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=868931.msg9633871#msg9633871

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But i could create you your own personal art piece inspired by almost anything you can dream of, your imagination is the limit, or if you have no imagination and want me to run wild, you just give me a concept, quote, or thought, and i will create a design based around that concept. I have access to every wood on the planet and your budget is the only thing that determines how extravagant it gets.

OR THIS:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=880599.msg9929759#msg9929759

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#5 is in process right now and was commissioned by a forum member to be custom designed for them.

NEVER IN ANY OF THE ABOVE QUOTES DID HE EVER ELUDE TO THE FACT THAT HE TAKES OTHER PEOPLE'S DESIGNS AND UTILIZES THEM IN HIS PIECES. OF COURSE HE WOULDN'T. WHY? PERHAPS BECAUSE IT KEEPS THE PERCEPTION THAT HE IS CREATING ALL OF HIS DESIGNS FROM SCRATCH AND TAILORS THEM TO SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THE CUSTOMER AS IF THEY ARE ALL OF HIS OWN DESIGNS. Cheesy

Just like he will say "I HAND CARVE ALL OF MY WORK". When really he should be saying "I HAND CARVE SOME OF MY WORK BUT MOST OF IT IS HAND CRAFTED USING MACHINE TOOLS". This is obvious mispeak to give the impression that he is actually hand carving all of his work.

It is like the salesman that will say anything to get you to buy that car but really he knows most of what he says isn't true.

But some of what he says is true so that makes it okay. lol

Yeah right.

A DERIVATIVE WORK is not ORIGINAL. It is simply that....DERIVATIVE WORK/CLIP ART/COPY.

You can keep covering your ears and eyes to the truth but in the end the truth will ring free. Perhaps you may or may not be around to hear it and if you are I suspect you will ignore it or find some way to justify what WC has done to be "OKAY".