Quote from: Vladimir on July 13, 2012, 09:39:59 PM

Quote from: caveden on July 13, 2012, 09:15:57 PM

Quote from: Vladimir on July 13, 2012, 08:07:57 PM

Blame the victim is never a good argument.

That's what this whole thread is about, blaming the victim. Assuming OP is true, then Bitcoinica is the victim of a theft. Everybody here is blaming Bitcoinica, not the thief.

If this is really a theft, and the thief wired money to accounts of his own, I really hope all this AML crap is for once put to good use and this asshole is caught, and forced to return everything he's stolen.
If it's not a theft*, then MtGox at least would know. I hope in this case they break the silence, otherwise they would be accomplices.

*EDIT: If it's not a theft done by a third party. Either way the costumers' money was stolen.

I disagree. The victims here are the people, Bitcoinica's depositors, who have their money "evaporated". Bitcoinica it appears at least complicit due to gross negligence if not worse, as some allege.

Criminal negligence (unintended crime) normally applies when your negligent action directly caused the crime. Like, if instead of paying attention to the road while driving you prefer to look to the tiny skirts of some lady passing by and you end up hitting someone, that's criminal negligence. If you are watching some woman's purse on an outside restaurant, and a thief grabs it and run away, you're not the criminal, the thief is. At least that's how I see it. It's not a crime to be stupid/naive or not to know good security practices. It's a crime to steal.

Anyways, I don't feel like defending Bitcoinica either. This was way too much fail.
I just hope the actual criminal is caught. If he withdrew USD, he did leave a clearer trail.