Quote from: tvbcof on February 06, 2015, 05:14:40 AM

Initial examples of sidechains will probably be out in a few months. Long before the 1MB becomes a problem (if it ever really would.) A properly implemented two-way-peg makes a sidecoin an excellent proxy for a bitcoin and offers a true potential to both scale and to keep Bitcoin lite and defensible.
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As it is, all you bloatchain guys are doing is herding a bunch of drooling sheep with simplistic fundamentalism, faith-based decentralization, nebulous claims about scaling, scare tactics and such-like. That's how I see it.

So you support having a properly implemented two-way-peg, but you don't support the research and development of a proper pruning method? Where is the logic behind that? Do you really think that the developers are incapable of finding a solution to the bloatchain problem before it actually becomes a problem Huh

Why do I always get the impression that the anti-fork people wear horse glasses? Why do they think that all the potential issues that might arise will not find a solution in a decent amount of time? You forget that this is the first developing consensus network and that changes need to happen and challenges must be faced. This will make the network grow and learn from mistakes in the same time. By closing ourselves in an bubble we also deny our evolution.

Quote from: Buffer Overflow on February 06, 2015, 11:49:38 AM

If the minority end up using the 1MB chain, it will become just another altcoin. To my knowledge Gavin doesn't actively engage in destroying altcoins that I'm aware of, unless others know different.
Of course if the minority choose the 20MB, that will become the altcoin.

Sure, but the good part is that if the 20MB fork becomes better then you will still have coins on the new hip-chain and everyone that will switch from the 1MB to the 20MB chain will be an early adopter. So it's a win win for everyone Wink