Quote from: tmfp on February 06, 2015, 08:49:59 PM

Quote from: CrazyJoker on February 06, 2015, 11:32:08 AM

4. Every next player's invest will payout its previous investor and hence only the last person looses....
Example with 200% return will look like as follows...

#1 invests 1 - bankroll is 1
#2 invests 2 - bankroll is 2, #1 gets paid 2
#3 invests 4 - bankroll is 4, #2 gets paid 4

This is a ridiculous claim, "only the last person loses."
Only true if every ~~mug~~ 'investor' pays in double the previous person.

Simple question for you CrazyJoker....in your example above, could you prove that you or your alts are not #1, even #2, manipulating the 'game' and ripping off everyone else without them knowing?

You can't = there is no such thing as a "provably fair ponzi" and anyone pretending that there is should get negative trust.

Sorry to say, this is not a ridiculous claim. This is rather correct in www.crazyponzi.com. You are confused because you are assuming that it works the same way like other Ponzi Games, which is simply untrue.

The investor/player/person, however you identify an entity participating in the game, will have to pay double of the previous player, if the round return is 200%. Please note that, this return % will vary between 110% to 200% from round to round. If you still do not understand, I'd request you to give it a try for free at the site, where you'll get 1BTC non-withdrawable play money for testing.

Regarding your second Q... No, I can not prove that I'm not playing in the game at any point of time. But, if you look at the operation of the game, you'll discover that it does not matter. Because, if I play I'll also take the risk of being the last player, just like everyone else. If I am the #1 & #2 I'm just raising the value of initial deposit, which does not impact the way other users play the game, because they already know at any point of time anyone can be part of the game. Some rounds may have multiple investors, while some rounds may not have any... that is the luck factor everyone is playing against. Even if I assume that I'll play, then I have to play against the same luck factor.

The classical concept of Provably Fair does not apply here, because the whole luck concept is different here than normal dice games. I have also read somewhere that the Provably Fair concept is different for Poker sites as well.

The only attack vector I can see here is that I can run away with the money, which also exists in all dice sites that accepts investment in the bankroll. But, to reduce that risk, I am acceting daily withdrawal which is possible evn before a round is over.

Feel free to ask any more Q if you may have...