Quote from: hilariousandco on February 07, 2015, 09:49:32 AM

Quote from: Throwaway_Acc on February 07, 2015, 08:50:05 AM

Unless there has been a dramatic change, Bitcoin protocol is not anonymous. Never has been. Yes, you can hide, but you are not anonymous.

So you can hide but you're not anonymous? If you're smart and don't screw up I don't think there's a solid way to tie someones address to their real world identity. Can you not be anonymous with tor either, or is that also just something you 'hide' behind?

Yup. Bitcoin is not anonymous. Tor is not anonymous either. Are you saying you believe both tech to be anonymous?

Quote from: hilariousandco on February 07, 2015, 09:49:32 AM

Quote from: Throwaway_Acc on February 07, 2015, 08:50:05 AM

So is it one of the reasons or whatever reasons? As far as I remember, theymos or badbear has always maintained that alts and account sales are allowed because of difficulty in enforcement.

Again, that is just one of the reasons, and you can have an alt account for whatever reason you personally wish (obviously as it's within the rules - not for evading bans etc).

What are the reasons, Ms.?

Quote from: hilariousandco on February 07, 2015, 09:49:32 AM

Quote from: Throwaway_Acc on February 07, 2015, 08:50:05 AM

Here is a solution that will make it enforceable unless someone is willing to purchase x number of unique IPs tied to one particular account, social account and email and hope they always remember to flush their browser before switching accounts.

So it's not a solution then is it, because that's exactly what people will do, and your points are still moot because multi-accounts are allowed, and again, not soley because it's unenforceable but because there are genuine reasons for having several accounts.

My point is not moot at all. You just refusing to see the logic in it. With the barriers raised, significantly fewer people will use alts. Kiddie account sellers will no longer be able to farm 20-30 accounts without large investment, incredible discipline and huge amount of time to burn. When they screw up even once eventually, the account will be locked. I have seen this happen at another forum that was once filled with scammers.

Again, what are the genuine reasons aside from non-existent 'anonymity'?

Quote from: hilariousandco on February 07, 2015, 09:49:32 AM

Quote from: Throwaway_Acc on February 07, 2015, 08:50:05 AM

Or are you saying Bitcointalk admins decision behind alts and account sales has nothing to do with enforcement? That puts a new spin on everything.

I'm not saying it has nothing to do with it as that is one reason, but not the sole one.

What are the other reasons?

Quote from: hilariousandco on February 07, 2015, 09:49:32 AM

Quote from: Throwaway_Acc on February 07, 2015, 08:50:05 AM

Quote from: hilariousandco on February 07, 2015, 08:38:13 AM

Quote from: Throwaway_Acc on February 07, 2015, 08:08:45 AM

As for jumping hoops. I would argue legitimate and honest users are asked to jump through more hoops to navigate through the scammy minefield here.
If you really want to talk about hoops, the six minute posting requirement for newbie accounts is the biggest hoop around.

Yes, so you're proving my point here. Don't add more restrictions, especially pointless unnecesary ones. The time limit goes down after a while anyway but at least newbs make it past the sign up stage which many won't if they see you need to link a social media account to it.

How am I proving your point? I just poked a pretty large hole in it. The biggest restriction is the six minutes barrier between posts. Linking your social media account takes seconds, once.

How did you poke a hole in it? Because you said hoops are annoying but your solution is to add more to jump through? Once your identity is tied to that account it might be only once but it is there forever and then you still have to contend with the 6 minute wait, that's if you have made it past linking your social media account which many wont because it's unnecessary and all it does it add annoyance to people whilst stopping nothing but genuine users signing up or making it an extra hassle for them to do so.

Because you made a big deal about people not wanting to sign up due the hassle of clicking one button once, a process that will take a few seconds. Yet they are perfectly okay with waiting six minutes between posts.

Quote from: hilariousandco on February 07, 2015, 09:49:32 AM

Quote from: Mitchełł on February 07, 2015, 09:46:19 AM

I don't want my social media accounts tied to Bitcointalk or Bitcoin in general. I tend to keep that kind of stuff private and away from this. If I had to connect my Bitcointalk account with Social Media, I would either create a fake account or look for another forum.

Same, and many people will just be just turned off straight away. People who want to get around these restrictions to abuse them will just do what is necessary to bypass them, so it just hurts regular users who don't care or have the patience to go about creating fake social media accounts or using proxies/tor etc.

Many people? Many people couldn't be bothered about hiding their identity online. The very, very few who do, can just create an alternate account to do so.
They won't get flagged.
When amateurs create accounts multiple accounts, they will get flagged for reasons mentioned in my earlier posts.
For professionals scammers, they will have a higher barrier of entry and one wrong move could render their account closed.
I would argue that more people will sign up because they will feel safer, knowing there are actual people behind an account rather than alts.

@Mitchell, where else would you go? Bitcointalk has an unhealthy monopoly online. There is nowhere else to go.