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Watched interstellar. it was pretty bad.
If some mysterious aliens could drop off a portal that went to a bunch of different habitable planets then you would think they could just save earths climate.

They were not mysterious aliens.. It was explained who those people were.

That "mysterious force" came from humans in the future who had access to 5th dimension, which transcended time.

Hahaha you didnt understand shit my friend Tongue

The movie said it COULD be humans but who it really was, was never shown.

This is a classical causality paradox that arises when time is considered as a linear entity. If time is considered not linear, where singular events are considered the super position of all events, everything can exist at once.

If your familiar with quantum mechanics this called a wave function collapse. The matter waves exist in all states, until they are observed then lock into a single form.

In the movie, all events exist at the same time, until an observer locks the event by observing it, principle of super position.

The future humans made the worm hole because it always existed, but it didn't exist until they made it. This is the paradox. From one point of view the worm hole never existed, from another it always existed. If these points are view are merged in a particular manner you get causality
Even A caused event B

Yes I know its very confusing and not satisfying..too bad Wink

About worm holes, they are a consequence of particular solutions to Einstein's field equations, but they have never been observed and are only theoretical..The poster above who said nature makes them all the time is lying. Just because they are mathematically possible doesn't mean they are physically possible.

Magnetic mono-poles are mathematically possible in Maxwell's equations, but they have never been observed. A magnet with only a north or south.

Kip Thorne was the science adviser and apparently the modelling of the black hole gargantua was the most realistic simulation ever done and matched very well with the field equations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kip_Thorne
http://news.discovery.com/space/interstellar-black-hole-is-best-black-hole-in-sci-fi-141029.htm

As someone who studied physics formally, the movie was pure science porn. A+. There was even a correctly placed '-g' for gravity in a particular field equation on a blackboard. Very well done.

I am not sure why you made this post, also, the fact that I know and understand superposition property principle doesnt mean everyone else will. What really confuses me about your post is the reason for it's existence.

Also, do you want me to take you for a trip to the LHC ? Where they were actively recreating mini wormholes and blackholes which are mathematically proved while evidential proof have recently been detected in the form of Higgs particles ?
The fact that we cant yet detect them with that big of an instrument is the sole reason why the LHC is undergoing an upgrade.

Lastly, if you dont want to believe in the existence of something that is mathematically proven but not yet physically observed then that is more of a philosophical standpoint. As human beings we are lucky enough to even comprehend the vastness of this universe, observing it while being Earth-locked is a long shot.

You're an idiot, First provide evidence of wormholes at CERN, please...I'm waiting. Also please provide evidence of mini black holes, which may be created at high enough eV levels, but have not been yet. Again send me the paper from CERN's website. Here I'll get you started. http://home.web.cern.ch/

I never said I believe mathematical constructs aren't possible, I said they may not be possible.

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Just because they are mathematically possible doesn't mean they are physically possible.

Magnetic mono-poles are mathematically possible in Maxwell's equations, but they have never been observed. A magnet with only a north or south.

Please show were I said they are not physically possible? Mathematical models don't work in all circumstances, the inverse square law uses mathematical points. A point electron doesn't exist, the model breaks down at 1/r^2 as r->0, additional models are required to resolve this inconsistency. Basic em theory says at r=0, an electron has infinite charge. Maybe a worm hole is analogous, the math shows a worm hole at r=0, but maybe the math is incomplete. Until they can be created at will and verified we won't know.
Here is a link you may find of interest.
http://www.englishforeveryone.org/Topics/Reading-Comprehension.htm