Quote from: keepinquiet on February 08, 2015, 12:26:15 AM

As for understaning having to click the button 'to start' - why? Why be forced to inform the server you're watching at all? Most betting sites publish the hash on a static page anyone can see.

If you publish the hash on a standalone page, you could read the hash on your phone, not logged in, then bet from your PC, and the server would NEVER know you checked the hash. Giving them absolutely no opportunity to cheat, because anyone, at any time, can check.

Putting hash on "static", standalone page would mean they use same seed for every player and disclose it every day/ hour etc.
999dice generates new seed every roll, I can understand how it may require pushing the button to generate/show hash - as you said, even when using API you have to use seperate call to get server's seed hash - reason behind that may be the fact that normally all "magic" happens in one fuction, that takes care of generating server seed, mixing it with client seed and calculating result. Separate function that pre-generate server seed is not run unless you explicitly ask for it. Such construction simplifies the process as they don't have to store pre-generated server seed anywhere - it's generated on the fly during the bet. Yes, it does make changing client seed somehow useless, as without knowing server seed hash we still have to trust casino operator, but hey - 99% users trust the casino and the remaining 1% can click the button - maybe there are some savings in processing speed that makes this complication worthwhile.

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And as for the bet verifier - absolutely. The problem is, you gotta click that button. Which tells them you're verifying. Which means it will never not verify.

Best case scenario, if everyone starts verifying, they can't cheat.

Hmm. Maybe tonight I'll write a javascript plugin for 999dice that clicks the hash button automatically after every bet processes. Enough people start doing that, and I bet we see the .1% house edge increase within a few weeks.

Exactly.
That would get rid of all uncertainty.

Quote from: keepinquiet on February 08, 2015, 06:41:49 AM

Quote from: monkeygang on February 08, 2015, 06:35:24 AM

There is a million scams out there its the godforsaken wild west, sometimes there's a faster gunslinger or a band of manure thieves prowling about??

Sorry for your loss

I would though like a copy of this script (or system) that made you the 60 bitcoins in 14 hours. Why not use it en mass and put a beating on the website. Im sure many here would be happy to help with the project Wink

The admin threatening to confiscate any deposits I make is a good reason to not do that.

As far as a copy of it, won't do you much good unless you've got 50 BTC to deposit and can stomach risking the loss of it. It's not foolproof by any means. Anyone who tells you their system IS, is lying to you.

I also wanted to ask you for a copy of your script.
No, I don't have 50btc but I'm sure it could be used with smaller sum of btc/doges too Cool

Quote from: el kaka22 on February 08, 2015, 03:14:49 PM

it is funny
i think most people has know that it is a scam site
but why do people still play there
perhaps because of them still make a profit every day (smart player)
some are a playing with dumb and lost "a lot" and finally put hate to admin there .dont know

People play there because they have 0.1% house edge.
Plus they have server-side autobet meaning you can do 200 martingales in one go.
Don't get me wrong, I see sarcasm in your post Tongue

Quote from: Belkaar on February 08, 2015, 09:35:39 PM

Why not create a proxy website that allows users tohave every bet verified?

Every bot should have built in bet verifier.
I can't remember if that one available @ 999dice have this option... Even if it does, you would have to build it from the source (and read the source first).