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what is your opinion on grexit? is it going to happen? will they let us leave eurozone? and if so, will this affect the price of bitcoin?

Nobody wants a grexit, not even Syriza. But something has to give soon, if Greece gets IMF on their side it might be difficult for the creditor nations to resist some kind of debt relief, but what form and what size is impossible to know right now.

Grexit will happen because there are three outcomes and grexit is the not the worst case scenario for either side. Possibilities:
1)Greek bank run with no bail-out leading to collapse of economy and government
2) Writedowns/write offs of Greek debt leading several other countries to re-negotiate austerity terms and massive losses to sovereign debt-holders.
3) Grexit.

It's going to happen. The only real question is "when?"

You are assuming that the EU or Greece will choose the less bad option. Ballsy!

A more likely reason why there can be a grexit is simply because everyone fucks up and are forced to accept a grexit that nobody wants. That would be politics european style!

The fuck-up is not knowing the difference between what you want and a realistic expectation. Greece is out. The disaster for the EU would be if Greece leaves and is better off as a result. Then you're going to see a great unraveling of your whole experiment. What you should want and hope happens is that Greece suffers mightily. It's the only way your other deadbeat countries will stay in line.

As a European myself I have rather mixed feelings by your attempts of acting interesting towards everyone else here. Hate is one of those feelings, although I won't deny that a feeling of humor is present as well. It is really impressive to see how you constantly confuse the EMU with the EU and seem to have no idea of the latter its institutions, its goals or why it is there in the first place.

Not to mention the surety that only an ideological maniac can put forward: Greece is out. No doubt about it. You know it already. No idea how, but you know it. After Greece is out, which is 100% certain to happen according to your crystal ball, the whole experiment (the EU I take it) would unravel. Granted, the diplomatic damage would be considerable, but there is no way in hell that Europe will throw away 60-ish years of cooperation because Greece can't keep its internal finances in check. The EU is much, much more than the single currency some of its countries are using nowadays, although I don't expect you to understand that shit.

Truth be told, the way you crusade against the EU - and the level of uninformedness - really comes close to the level of Fox News.