Quote from: coaex on February 14, 2015, 06:37:09 AM

Quote from: Gruxon on February 13, 2015, 11:41:51 PM

I agree with users who mention that the terms of the bonus should be more clear. It is something that would save trouble for everyone, users and Anonibet.

Quote from: coaex on February 12, 2015, 11:29:22 AM

Let me tell you with an example.
Event: Anderlecht vs KAA Gent

https://www.anonibet.com/match.aspx?gm_id=907904
http://www.directbet.eu/Event.cshtml?EventID=27361017

Anonibet Under 5.5: 1.02
Directbet Over 5.5: 20

Max. Payout for the event at Anonibet : 2100 mBTC

1) Open https://en.surebet.com/calculator
2) Enter odds 1.122 (which we multiply 1.02 x 1.10 - that comes from deposit bonus) and 20, respectively. You have a 6.24% surebet now!
3) Enter 2174.32 for total stake.
You'll see the distribution of your stake as 2058.82 and 115.50, respectively.

4) Now, divide each of these stakes with 1.10 and you have 1871.65 and 105 mBTC to bet. Your total cost for this event is : 1976.65 mBTC, Deposit these amounts to relevant bookies and you have a surebet.
5) Let's see the payout.

If the event outcome is under 5.5, we will have 2100 mBTC from Anonibet. (1912.83 mBTC + 187.165 mBTC Bonus)
If the event outcome is over 5.5, we will have 2100 mBTC from Directbet.

That's not a surebet, I would even say that it is almost impossible to find one surebet between sportbooks of bitcoin.
If the bet cost 1976.65 mBTC and if you win the bet in Anonibet, you don´t have 2100 mBTC, you have 1912.83 mBTC (-63,82 mBtc of the bet size), the bonus does not belong to the real balance, is just a bonus, you can´t withdraw the bonus.

You are missing a point. The bonus can be withdrawn, in fact, but by losing the bonus (or the whole bet) at Anonibet. I can provide you several case scenarios to prove that is a surebet.
This is definitely a surebet if you REPEAT the aforementioned process until the event outcome in other sportsbook(s) is realized. In this strategy, we are assuming the bonus to be withdrawn at another bookie by losing at Anonibet in the next event and if not, in our subsequent event and so goes on.. In other words, we are sacrificing a small percentage of the bonus which had won in the previous event in order to claim it from Bookie X or repeating the process from start for ease of calculation.
Note that Anonibet allows bettors to deposit and benefit from 10% deposit bonus, while they have bonus in their accounts and also allows bettors to use the bonus at first (see: FIFO method practice).

To prove my theory, I'm providing the method how to withdraw the bonus amount that had won at Anonibet while obeying all the terms and conditions specified by Anonibet.
Anonibet should define clearly if this is an abuse or not. Otherwise, it will be deemed as a scammer.

In these events, I picked relatively low surebet opportunities at Anonibet. However, these low surebets is regarded as the most lucrative ones compared to general surebet opportunities in the entire planet.

Event #1: Bologna vs. Ternana - Italy Serie B - 14.02.2014 14:00 GMT (3.09% surebet)

Bologna (Anonibet Solid odds @1.70 - Bonus odds 1.70 x 1.10 = @1.87) : Deposit 2673,8 mBTC to Anonibet and you have 2941,18 mBTC in your account. If Bologna wins, you will have 2941,18 mBTC x 1.70 = 5000 mBTC in your account. 4732,62 mBTC (Withdrawable amount) + 267,38 mBTC (Bonus amount)
Draw (Nitrogensports @3.51) : Deposit 1424,5 mBTC to Nitrogen and place a bet on draw with your full stake. If the event outcome is Draw, you will have 5000 mBTC in your account.
Ternana (Nitrogensports @6.65) : Deposit 751,88 mBTC to Nitrogen and place a bet on Ternana with your full stake. If the event outcome is Ternana, you will have 5000 mBTC in your account.

Note that your cost is : 4850,18 mBTC

Now, let's assume the event is finished and Bologna won. We have 4732,62 + 267,38 = 5000 mBTC in our Anonibet account. Possible event grade time by Anonibet is 14.02.2014 16:00 GMT
Repeat the procedure with Event #2. We should pick the event after 14.02.2014 16:00 GMT and Bitcoin network should find at least 1 block between 14.02.2014 16:00 GMT and Event #2 start time as Anonibet requires 1 confirmation for deposits.

Event #2: Heracles - Feyenoord - Netherlands Eredivisie - 14.02.2014 17:30 GMT (~2.15% surebet)

Feyenoord (Anonibet Solid Odds @1.60 - Bonus odds 1.60 x 1.10 = @1.76) : Deposit 5681,81 mBTC to Anonibet and you have 6250 mBTC (5681,81 + 568,181) + 5000 mBTC (won at Bologna match) in your Anonibet account. Note that you now have 10414,439 mBTC withdrawable amount + 835,561 mBTC in your bonus account. However, you cannot withdraw 10414,439 mBTC because you have to bet at least 6250 mBTC in order to be eligible for withdraw any amount according to deposit bonus rules. And now, we are placing this bet. Bet on Feyenoord with 6250 mBTC.

6250 x 1.60 = 10000 mBTC
According to FIFO method of Anonibet, you will have 5000 mBTC at Anonibet which can be withdrawn anytime. Note that you used the total bonus in Event #2. You have fulfilled the conditions completely, now. Either choose to withdraw 5000 mBTC or wait for the event(s) to be finished in order to benefit from deposit bonus once more because Anonibet is giving you this "opportunity", legitimately.

Draw (Nitrogensport @4.25): Deposit 2352,94 mBTC to Nitrogen and place a bet on draw with your full stake. If the event outcome is Draw, you will have 10000 mBTC in your account.
Heracles (Nitrogensport @5.7) Deposit 1754,38 mBTC to Nitrogen and place a bet on Heracles with your full skate. If the event outcome is Heracles, you will have 10000 mBTC in your account.

Note that our total cost for Event #2 is 5681,81 + 2352,94 + 1754,38 = 9789,13 mBTC
Total cost of Event #1 and Event #2: 4850,18 + 9789,13 = 14639,31

Let's assume Heracles won or Draw. We have 5000 mBTC at Anonibet which can be withdrawn anytime and 10000 mBTC at Nitrogen which can be withdrawn anytime, as well. A total of 15000 BTC with a cost of 14639,31 mBTC. 2.46% easy profit in 5 and a half hours and notice that I picked relatively low surebets.. You can find surebets up to 8 percent per event, anytime. So far I notice, average of these surebets are 5-6% per event.

If Feyenoord wins, repeat the procedure for Event #n.

In this regard, Anonibet's accusation to legitimate bettors for odds 1.01 has NO VALID GROUND and is an effort to hide its scam activity while they are giving this opportunity for each of every event!

If you have any other additional questions, you can ask me anytime.