Quote from: Quickseller on February 14, 2015, 07:05:11 AM

Quote from: haploid23 on February 14, 2015, 01:37:37 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on February 13, 2015, 04:22:00 AM

Quote from: Blazedout419 on February 13, 2015, 04:20:08 AM

Collateral is a Suggestion not a Rule...I lend without it from time to time. It is the lenders choice if they require collateral to lend or not.

Would you be willing to lend him 60 BTC without collateral? If someone were to lend him that much, what do you think the chances are that he would repay the loan (be sure to look at his trust first)?

I lent someone very close to this amount, no collateral. Got at least half of it back, the rest still not due yet Wink

. But obviously such large transaction like this without collateral is extremely rare.

Ok continue on...

I looked through roughly the last 20 pages of your leading thread and was not able to find such a loan request (there was one for 20 BTC to be repaid in 5 years that did give me some lulz along with others, but you did not actually fund this one despite you telling him you did). I did find one post that may indicate who you were potentially lending to although the details were likely intentionally kept private so I will respect the borrowers and your privacy if you are willing to keep the details of the loan secret. The person in question however does have significant trading history with people whose trust reports I trust and does not have any blemishes on his history. I also assume that you were able to verify his income/ability to repay (while the BTCjam loan in question does not have the OP's income verified).

I think you would agree that the vast majority of loan requests of even 2 BTC are scams, let along requests of 60 BTC. Additionally I think if you were to take the time to closely look at the details of his loan request (if you have not done so already) then you would likely consider his request a scam, and would probably make the same conclusion if his request was for 2 BTC.

Quote from: bitcoinpuddle on February 14, 2015, 02:39:42 AM

Quote from: haploid23 on February 14, 2015, 01:37:37 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on February 13, 2015, 04:22:00 AM

Quote from: Blazedout419 on February 13, 2015, 04:20:08 AM

Collateral is a Suggestion not a Rule...I lend without it from time to time. It is the lenders choice if they require collateral to lend or not.

Would you be willing to lend him 60 BTC without collateral? If someone were to lend him that much, what do you think the chances are that he would repay the loan (be sure to look at his trust first)?

I lent someone very close to this amount, no collateral. Got at least half of it back, the rest still not due yet Wink

. But obviously such large transaction like this without collateral is extremely rare.

Ok continue on...

well use the collateral The puddle faucets. for a loan

No. This would be a guaranteed way to lose significant amounts of money.

Quote from: bitcoinpuddle on February 13, 2015, 08:16:11 PM

? Okay man I am out of this your so something else. It is my adsense account with earnings and you still deny it.
expenses are 2.1 btc like stated in the thread. why would I just post it. of course if there is a buyer I will show everything before sale I even asked if you wanted to see my adsense account and faucetbox account you denied. so just stop, you wouldn't know proof if i was right on your nose.

funny how you didnt bring this up any more. "You are going to have to link the post. I have not seen any of this. " you clearly seen it. now your going to deny it?

no need to post here any more.

I am pretty sure you just contradicted yourself when you said you were not going to post here anymore when you made your above comment.

You claim your expenses are 2.1 BTC (per month?) however have provided no such documentation to be as much.

Additionally if you have really earned as much as your screenshot from what you claim to be your Adsense account shows you earned then you should be able to provide either copies of checks you received or copies of bank statements showing deposits from Adsense (as well as for other companies you are advertising for).

You will need to highlight where in the TOS of Adsense that it shows you are not breaking their rules (the same applies for other advertisers you are advertising for).

Quote from: deadley on February 13, 2015, 11:45:20 PM

lol Quickseller you gone far away from Vod, Vod negative feedback 99.99% times for newbie who just post loan thread without collateral or scam accusation of anyone. You start your own BTCTALK Policing to all account who do big loan or big trade.

I never said I am trying to follow in Vod's footsteps. My feedback consists of negative trust against people who I have gathered evidence that they are trying to scam, or when it is clear they are trying to scam.

Quote from: deadley on February 13, 2015, 11:45:20 PM

Do you think anyone here fool who will just give 60 BTC to anyone without collateral or without knowing him/herself since long time.

If you are implying that anyone considering to lend the OP 60 BTC is a fool then you are validating my negative trust against him. The same would be asked about giving loans to newbies without collateral, giving such loans is extremely stupid however it does happen ever once in a blue moon.

Quote from: deadley on February 13, 2015, 11:45:20 PM

May be in future I will make thread to post for selling 50-100 BTC then you come and asking me all details or signed address.
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If you were to ask for a 50 BTC loan in the future and cannot provide a signed message then you would probably get tagged as a potentially hacked account. If you can produce a signed message after asking for such a large loan then you would likely get questioned. Also, you, unlike the OP do have reputation and have less scammy business proposals then the OP.

However when relying on trust ratings alone then you will have outcomes like this.

Additionally as mentioned above the OP has not submitted any proof of income to BTCjam nor has offered to give proof of income to potential lenders.

Quote from: legendster on February 14, 2015, 03:42:46 AM

There would be a point after which his 'opinion' in every matter would simply become a joke.

You are more then welcome to exclude my trust ratings from you seeing them by default if you think they are a "joke".

Additionally it is interesting to note that you effectively threatened me to ignore your business dealings/offers which in itself is scammy as the reason why such dealings are posted publicly is to allow for others to peer review them and to call out anything that is less then safe and/or fair.

First of all, the level of information you share on Jam is completely depended on you, it is a SUGGESTION that you complete your profile but it is also suggested that you expose only that much information about yourself with which you are comfortable. If you dont like sharing some detail then simply DONT.

Go ahead and take a look at https://btcjam.com/users/5906 https://btcjam.com/users/24910 or https://btcjam.com/users/43278 I am sure you dont even know who these people are but they are successful investors and borrowers on jam who are trusted without a complete profile.

AND THEY HAVE REPAID over 500 BTC !

I am building my rep there AND HERE so that the community can trust me similarly because I do have a couple of business ideas that I want to fund solely through JAM or BCT. People who can TRUST ME.

I am sure you cant trust me and not only people like you have a problem trusting others you have a problem of letting people trust someone else who you dont trust and hence guys like you abuse this trust system, but honestly this abuse has a good side effect on this community, it helps to screen potential scammers and hence it is tolerated but it is also unfair in many ways.. but hey this post isnt about that.

Returning back to point I wont call you an idiot anymore, largely because the way you conduct yourself in messy situations like this, where you are trying to smear a decently trusted guy like me. BUT with that said I will continue to say that what you ARE trying to do is stupid and idiotic.
It is evident that you have free time to kill by all means continue your agenda, but if you were really employed or made money outside this forum 'professionally' then you would understand that it is not a good idea to share your income details online. No matter the context.
If I were applying for a loan on Jam and had my income details shared on their site AND their site got hacked which regularly happens wouldnt my tax paying information be leaked ?
According to me people can use Jam to get the initial funding required by their businesses WITHOUT APPLYING through a bank and thats what I plan to do off course I wouldnt even waste my time explaining this to you, because according to you, you have a very high intellect so you might have trouble figuring out simple stuffs lol

Since this post was made to expose your idiocy to the people here and now that it has served it's purpose you are more than welcome to just not reply here anymore and continue with ... whatever you are trying to pull.