Quote from: Cryddit on February 16, 2015, 09:52:18 PM

Quote from: danielpbarron on February 16, 2015, 08:17:49 PM

To expand on my previous post, there is also the matter of the sell pressure that will come from us "anti-forkers." So not only will Gavin's spambots need to support the usual 36 hundred bitcoin mined per day, but they will have to take on thousands if not millions of double-spent coins that were purchased before the fork. It's really comical that you guys think you have even the slightest sliver of a chance to win this thing. But by all means, quote me and laugh; I'll have the last one.

Seriously? Your interest in this whole thing is for nothing but figuring out a way to steal? What a pathetic piece of crap you are. But, okay, let's run with it.

Let's say you take an output from your hip pocket, and then make two conflicting transactions -- one that sends it to your coat pocket and one that sends it to your shirt pocket. After a few tries, you get the <1MB chain to think it's in your coat pocket and the >1MB chain to think it's in your shirt pocket. Success! Now you can make transactions that are valid only in one chain, so you can attempt to steal stuff from people by double spending!

Now, think about this. Which set of people can you steal stuff from by double spending? The ones who are getting tx accepted within 10 minutes and reach confirmation depth within an hour, or the ones who are getting 1/7 of their tx accepted in a given 3.3-hour span, and which, even when accepted, don't reach confirmation depth for a day and a half?

The people who are vulnerable to your double spending scam are the ones on the <1MB chain. And when some bastard manages to scam you because you got stuck on the losing side of a hard fork, then the way to get safe is to get the hell off that crippled damn thing and onto the main branch.

It is in fact thieves like yourself who will do us the favor of putting the <1MB chain out of its misery. The fact that you will do so by ripping people off and driving your victims away is despicable.

Oh, no no no...

You are the folks making an alt here. If you are leveraging the current blockchain as a pre-mine, it make no sense in any context to classify exploitation of your own pernicious activities as 'theft'. Nice try though.

From my standpoint you guys are actively attacking the solution and it's potential to be something worthwhile. I'd take advantage of that for personal gain even if it was 'theft' because it would also be an appropriate response to an attack. That is, to make the attack be as painful for the attacker as possible. Go ahead with your little hard-fork, but don't expect we who consider it an attack to actually support you in doing so.

If I'm wrong and/or misjudge reality, I lose out on the future-value of gavincoins. Oops.

If you gavincoin folks don't like it you better roll in some other protections along with your fork. Or quickly thereafter if you sense that doing so simultaneously will panic the herd. You could easily monitor other forks (note the plural) and 'red-list' values which circulate in other crypto-currencies for instance, and such {color}-listing will be eminently possible when most infrastructure support is provided by people who cannot easily walk away from their investment when threatened by the corp/gov powers-that-be. That's probably the driving force behind the whole gavincoin/govincoin/govcoin project anyway.